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Foundation vs key stage 1 vs reception

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WiganKebab Sun 24-Feb-13 19:15:47

Can any of the pros help? What is the definition of 'foundation stage'? Is is reception plus year 1? And same question re key stage 1?

RueDeWakening Sun 24-Feb-13 19:18:03

Foundation is nursery & reception.
KS1 is years 1&2.
KS2 is years 3-6.

cumbrialass Sun 24-Feb-13 19:23:06

Reception is sometimes called Foundation2 ( as Nursery is Foundation1!!)

WiganKebab Sun 24-Feb-13 19:48:56

Ok, so I have a list from school of 100 high frequency words that the child is supposed to know by end of 'foundation'. However, on looking up flashcards on amazon etc, they seem to describe the child needing to know the first 45 words by the end of 'reception' (which sounds like same timeframe, but different number of words: 100 vs 45). Does anyone know the guidelines for this?

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 19:54:31

The 45 HFW were from the old National literacy strategy that was scrapped in 2007.
The 100 HFW are from Letters & Sounds and should be taught with phonics not flash cards

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 20:03:05

If this is a mum doing the teaching even if she knows phonics (does this mum?) she's still going to have trouble with the tricky bits.

WiganKebab Sun 24-Feb-13 20:03:09

So now I'm extra confused as not all the 100 words can be sounded out with phonics, eg the, Mr etc?

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 20:05:32

Yes. That's the problem, I'm afraid. Some "words" you just have to know. Mr, Miss and Mrs aren't really words they're abbreviations.

Pozzled Sun 24-Feb-13 20:15:53

Tbh, I wouldn't worry too much about those 100 words, I certainly wouldn't teach them with flashcards etc. The vast majority can be sounded out phonetically. (Some of them requiring more 'advanced' phonic knowledge, obviously e.g. 'like' is easy once you have learned 'i_e'). The few that are tricky even with a very good grasp of phonics can be learned as and when the children meet them in their reading.

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 20:18:29

Mr and Mrs are abbreviations so need to be learnt as such

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 20:22:13

Explain that there are some words which have one or sometimes two tricky
letters in them.
Sound-talk the word, and repeat, putting sound lines and buttons under each sound and blending them to read the word.
Discuss the tricky bit of the word where the letters do not correspond to the
sounds the children know (e.g. in he, the last letter does not represent the same sound as the children know in hen).

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 20:29:01

My daughter just recognises the words he and she

But they do follow the same pattern as be, we and me. She hasn't learned them as a group though. She just recognises them individually.

simpson Sun 24-Feb-13 20:30:19

Some words they just need to know by sight like Mr, Mrs, Dr etc (yes they are all abbreviations ).

Miss can be sounded out easily m i ss

Tbh if you read regularly to your child and if they can read listen to them then they should pick it up (hopefully).

DD's school send home lists of tricky words for them to read/spell <<sigh>>

(DD is in reception btw).

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 20:35:41

In telling time AM and PM are abbreviations, but who uses the proper forms nowadays? We don't even use the term afore any more. Are some abbreviations as good as words?

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 20:46:18

I don't think many people regularly use ante meridiem and post meridiem

simpson Sun 24-Feb-13 20:46:26

Well in DD's school reading book (that we only bothered with this eve blush) it had "a whale shark can grow up to 12 m long"

I had to tell her that the m was short for metres obviously...

teacherwith2kids Sun 24-Feb-13 20:48:22

AM is short for ante meridian - so not sure where afore comes in?

The difference between am / pm and 'Mr' is that for am we read the abbreviation 'ay em', whereas for Mr we always read the underlying word 'Mister'.

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 20:59:22

Isn't there a bigger difference than that? Even if we said ante meridian each time we still wouldn't necessarily know what it means whereas we'd know that Mr is a title for a man and Mrs is a title for a woman. (Miss, maybe we'd have to have explained and Master.)

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 21:03:46

ante meridiem is Latin for before noon

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 21:05:59

Mrs is the abbreviation for Mistress (which is why there is a <r> in there) but we say "missus"

learnandsay Sun 24-Feb-13 21:08:00

And anti meridian is an adjective meaning relating to that which happens before noon.

mrz Sun 24-Feb-13 21:10:18

a.m. is the abbreviation for ante meridiem

WiganKebab Mon 25-Feb-13 19:03:54

Thanks all, slightly clearer now!

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 25-Feb-13 19:12:19


WiganKebab Mon 25-Feb-13 20:49:14

S'up starlight?

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