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santy Fri 22-Feb-13 17:39:18

My daughter has just had some assessments she is is year 5 and achieved a 6c in her reading/literacy test. Am I right in thinking this is a year 8 grade?

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 16:51:06

that's why we do only a two year KS3!

I have a feeling KS3 will be squeezed even more between the primary school and the GCSE reforms.

it was given a very high profile about 15-20 years ago but that's all passed on by...

Badvoc Sat 23-Feb-13 16:50:38

My sons primary is very good with RE, history and science too.
Ds has come on leaps and bounds since starting year 4 and although a lot of that is down to work we do with him at home, his teachers were excellent.
They are ok in year 5 too, but his year 4 teachers really helped him believe in his abilities...he would never believe me sad
<wishes mrz was her sons teacher!>

BooksandaCuppa Sat 23-Feb-13 16:48:41

Ds is doing pythagoras and quadratic and simultaneous equations in yr 7 - we don't get levels as he's now at a non-selective independent (he was 5b end of yr6 but was capable of doing harder stuff at home - by choice!). I think he could easily pass a foundation level GCSE paper...

(Incidentally all the science he's doing seems to be KS4 stuff if we've ever gone onto BBC Bitesize site for additional help, so not sure if they'll need to go back and fill in some KS3 topics at any point?! His science teacher said the whole top group could easily pass single science GCSE by yr 8 but obviously they were aiming for triple science...not sure if taking up three of the nine courses with science is a good idea for those not planning on science later but, hey ho, it's years away yet!)

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:48:30

I've got to be honest I don't think he did much studying

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 16:42:27

I am sure she did for him to be able to pick up GCSE from it in his own personal studies.

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:37:39

but his year 6 teacher provided him with excellent grounding

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:36:23

They suggested he studied alone in a cupboard off the library

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 16:34:45

I'm guessing a back story here, which I can remember some details from your previous posting.

He did well, that's very impressive to achieve the GCSE in this way.

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:33:06

that should say after year 7

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:32:11

Well he passed his GCSE without attending any lessons ShipwreckedAndComatose so I guess he did

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 16:29:56

what, even for GCSE mrz?? gosh!!

And he did bioacculumation, the reactivity series, pressure, moments, velocity and acceleration at primary before reaching KS3?

that's really very impressive primary teaching!

tiggytape Sat 23-Feb-13 16:25:59

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mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 16:17:58

Yes it would

Badvoc Sat 23-Feb-13 15:33:02

So..if my son was a 4c in maths at end of year 5 that would be considered good?
Not that it matters, really.
He has made really good progress so just trying to keep on with that...
Btw op your dd sounds very bright smile
Well done her.

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 15:17:42

The only new science my son was taught at secondary school was the periodic table but science was a definite strength in his primary school

AScorpionPitForMimes Sat 23-Feb-13 14:56:26

tiggy my D is in Yr7 and is certainly doing Pythagoras and quadratic equations - she'a solid L6 at the moment, so that stuff is being taught at age 11/12. She wasn't quite there in Yr6 though, but then was 'only' a 5a at the time. I think she'd certainly have a decent shot at the GCSE foundation paper.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 12:54:16

Yes, I would agree with that, although I know less about teaching those subjects

teacherwith2kids Sat 23-Feb-13 12:29:55

Shipwrecked, I would agree that in some subjects the 'factual content' element would prevent even the most able younger children being able to take foundation papers straight off.

Maths, tbh, is probably the subject in which it is most possible IYSWIM. English probably requires a level of 'emotional intelligence / maturity' that is hard for a younger child to dsiplay, and most other subjects require significant 'factual content'. Perhaps languages might be another example, if very well taught at primary level?

ShipwreckedAndComatose Sat 23-Feb-13 08:41:37

I doubt they could manage a foundation science paper straight off though, because the syllabus content at KS4 is different to KS3. If taught it, then yes they could if you see what I mean.

We do start Ks4 in year 9. No student would actually sit the exam until the end of year 10 earliest because, as has been said up thread, they are not emotionally ready for the exam.

However, we have found that the students are ready for the level of work they are expected to do.

cumbrialass Sat 23-Feb-13 08:21:04

The first question on the foundation paper is "draw the line of symmetry" confused

In actual fact, the level 6 paper is probably consistently harder than the FoundationGCSE as ALL the questions on it are level 6. The GCSE paper covers grades from G upwards so the first few questions are ridiculously easy!

LivingInAPinkBauble Sat 23-Feb-13 08:05:20

Well done Santy's DD thanks
I have a year 5 in my class who is level 6 in Maths (sadly for me also level 1a children in same class maths group) and they are the first level 6 I have taught.

mrz Sat 23-Feb-13 07:55:43

I think a child that is genuinely a level 6 in Y6 and not just scrapping it to meet targets is quite capable of the GCSE foundation paper.

tiggytape Fri 22-Feb-13 22:49:55

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teacherwith2kids Fri 22-Feb-13 22:35:24

DS took a Maths GCSE foundation paper as his first termly assessment in Year 7....he was level 6 on leaving primary, and is a high 6 bordering on 7 now, so that seems entirely sensible.

cumbrialass Fri 22-Feb-13 22:30:00

A grade C at GCSE is in theory the equivalent to a level 7 on the NC levels, so yes, a level 5 would "fail dismally" but level 6 children could have a jolly good go! Has anyone looked at the maths GCSE paper recently? The foundation paper, which covers up to grade C, is well within the capabilities of good level 6 candidates. ( In fact I might give it to my top group next week to see how they get on!)

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