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why do teachers pick on the quiet ones??

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Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:06:45

why is it that teachers always feel the need to pocket on the quiet ones. I'm talking about pupils of anyone primary up to university level.

cece Thu 10-Jan-13 22:08:57

what do you mean?

Greensleeves Thu 10-Jan-13 22:09:00


Feenie Thu 10-Jan-13 22:12:15

Always? Really?

I am a teacher, and am fairly sure I never pocket on ANY quiet ones.


Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:13:34

when they are teaching they always pick on the quiet ones to answer questions or the ones that dont regularly put up their hands to answer questions. just asking I'm curious

cory Thu 10-Jan-13 22:13:42

Do they really pocket quiet pupils? I could understand that they might not make a fuss, but wouldn't it ruin the lining of their trousers? confused

Schooldidi Thu 10-Jan-13 22:13:47

It depends what you mean about pick on. If you mean asking them questions then I would assume other teachers do it for the same reasons I do. I want to know that that child understands so I will ask him/her a question because I know they will never volunteer an answer or even ask me separately. I don't ask the quiet ones any more questions than the loud ones though (at least I don't think I do). I also like to make sure that I have spoken to every child in the class at least a couple of times within our one hour lesson.

Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:14:08

ha ha ha sorry just read that ha stupid predictive texting sad

pictish Thu 10-Jan-13 22:14:37

I don't think they do, do they?

TunaPastaBake Thu 10-Jan-13 22:15:12

Do they ? I was quiet at school and was ok. My DS appears to be quiet at school and so far has been ignored. Seems to be if you quiet and middle ability you get looked over.

Schooldidi Thu 10-Jan-13 22:15:13

The puils who don't regularly put up their hands could be shy or they could not understand. I need to know which of those it is.

Feenie Thu 10-Jan-13 22:15:26

What schooldidi said.

Why would you want me to ignore children who don't volunteer answers, and not involve them in my teaching?

Greensleeves Thu 10-Jan-13 22:16:08

Because they are required to plan for and teach ALL of the children and this means staying in touch with where the children are and continuously assessing their understanding. You can't have "quiet children" sitting glazed over not participating. The teacher would be letting those children down and failing to do the job properly.

Asking questions isn't a way of humiliating children, it's informal assessment and it is important.

cory Thu 10-Jan-13 22:16:18

Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:13:34
"when they are teaching they always pick on the quiet ones to answer questions or the ones that dont regularly put up their hands to answer questions. just asking I'm curious "

That's not picking on someone: that's just making sure that the quiet ones aren't using their quietness as an excuse to drift off and not do any work. The talkative ones they can keep track on anyway.

As a teacher of rather older students, I can't help noticing how in every seminar it's the same two or three students who are doing all the work and when you do pounce on the quieter ones, an astonishing number of them won't have prepared what they were supposed to and won't have been paying attention to what you just said.

stayathomegardener Thu 10-Jan-13 22:17:03

I think I know what you mean.

My DD 14 can be singled out/bullied by certain teachers but one in particular has pushed her too far-the worm has turnedsmile and surprise surprise now leaves DD well alone

Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:17:05

thanks school. just curious as it was the same when I was at school although u may no the answer you don't want to speak infront of everyone. I hated it as u r more concentrating on hoping you don't get asked anything. it is now happening to my 8yo dd1 it's got to the point where she didn't want to go to school.

TunaPastaBake Thu 10-Jan-13 22:18:01

My last post was posted before OP explained further. But agree with others that ones that don't put their hand up need to be asked. Other than that not picked on.

Taffeta Thu 10-Jan-13 22:19:56

Agree with Tuna. My DD in last years teachers words "isn't one of the many that tugs at my trousers" and is subsequently forgotten and looked over.

I would be very pleased if a teacher noticed her and asked her questions.

seeker Thu 10-Jan-13 22:19:57

Just as many people complain about quiet children getting passed over for the mor confident noisy ones!

cory Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:06

I think the best thing for your dd is to try to help her confidence to the point where she is able to contribute to class discussions rather than giving her a carte blanche to opt out.

I used to hate PE to the point where I would rather not have gone to PE classes. But that would hardly have been a reason for the PE teacher to let me out of all the physical stuff.

Learning to express yourself verbally in a group is an important life skill.

Greensleeves Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:09

I teach primary and I put a LOT of effort into using different questioning strategies to involve more reticent children without making them die inside.

I have a butterfly which settles on the child it wants to ask, and a "choosy chicken" puppet with a daft voice that chooses children. And a big comedy foam hand for pointing, which is a bit more confrontational but works well with certain little boys who are difficult to engage.

Another strategy is to get children to talk in partners for a few minutes ad then ask them to tell you what their partner said.

Most teachers do not set out to make your child miserable.

deleted203 Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:12

I'm with Schooldidi. It is important to check that all pupils have understood the work and I will do a bit of open questioning with hands up - and then I'm likely to ask questions directly to those I know will never put their hands up and volunteer. I make sure I've spoken to every pupil - and that they've all had to clarify something/answer something for me so that I can check understanding. It's one of the signs of a decent teacher IMO. If you only take answers from the keen/loud/overbearing kids then it is possible to find halfway though a topic that one of the shy ones didn't understand a major part of it but was too afraid to put their hand up and ask. And it is also done to boost their confidence a bit. If I can get a quiet pupil to answer and be able to say to them, 'Fantastic - that's a great answer, showing you've understood the basics. Can you think of anything else to add?' then hopefully it has boosted their confidence a bit and made them less self conscious about answering in future.

Taffeta Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:28

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Mytwobeautifulgirls Thu 10-Jan-13 22:20:58

just a question guys I can c your points I just think perhaps there maybe other ways to find out the ability of an individual. I don't know I'm not a teacher hats off to those that r. but I have told dd stick your hand up and she won't ask you. so she is doing this but I think it's a case of getting over that shyness.

Greensleeves Thu 10-Jan-13 22:24:07

There are other ways of gauging where children are - self-assessment against success criteria using thumbs up/down, red and green lolly sticks, drawing faces on whiteboards

but there is no substitute for good quality questioning. It is an important part of teaching and learning and you need to support your child to get used to it, not encourage her to develop a persecution complex or find ways of avoiding it.

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