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Data protection- Christmas cards?

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guccigirl666 Mon 03-Dec-12 17:00:29

Today I asked ds's teacher for a list of the other kids in his class to give Christmas cards to but she said she can't due to data protection? What should I do about cards? Is this standard practice?

exoticfruits Sun 09-Dec-12 22:20:22

If he wants to reply to the ones received- it really isn't a problem- ask him who he wants to send a card to - he will know the names of those he plays with.

TeamBacon Sun 09-Dec-12 21:57:58


Strongly written letter? :-/

Just reply to any cards received. Easy.

RyleDup Sun 09-Dec-12 21:11:16

Dc's school has a little pile of class lists in the cloakroom, so the parents can take one as they please.

exoticfruits Sun 09-Dec-12 21:02:12

Personally I'd be very tempted to write the HT a very strongly worded note, since this sort of rubbish really discriminates against DCs like DD1 (who's dyslexic and has real trouble with faces and names)

My DS is dyslexic and he knew who his friends were! He only had a few when he started school. If you don't know, or can't remember, the name or face they are not a friend and you don't need to send a card! Maybe he only needs to send 3 or 4 cards.

expansivegirth Sun 09-Dec-12 20:18:24

I found the class photo really helpful. Just sat down and asked my children to tell me first names from that, double checking spelling of difficult names on pegs. I'd have preferred to have been given a list of first names from the class teacher, but it was not to be.

Startail Sun 09-Dec-12 19:54:38

You just need to speak to the parent who does teas for the PTA, they always know everyone.

Or you need DS to find your classes equivalent of DD2, who knew everyone's name at the nursery she went to one day a week when she was 3.

Personally I'd be very tempted to write the HT a very strongly worded note, since this sort of rubbish really discriminates against DCs like DD1 (who's dyslexic and has real trouble with faces and names), she'd want to be friendly, but end up getting made fun of because she'd get mixed up, call Bill, Ben, miss spell someone or forget someone.
Also we have split years and I always forgot one very tall, slightly older looking girl was actually in DD1s year.

Likewise working parents who don't live at the school gate don't know every one either.

CaptainNancy Sun 09-Dec-12 19:26:50

We're given a list with forenames only, on request only. Sure, my DD could have told me everyone in her form when she was reception, probably everyone in the other form too... DS, not a clue, probably couldn't tell you who he'd sat next to that day!

exoticfruits Sun 09-Dec-12 19:26:44

If he can't give you the name it is a good indication that it isn't a friend and he doesn't need a card for them!

exoticfruits Sun 09-Dec-12 19:25:48

Ask DC who he wants to send cards to and write them-simple! I can't think why he wants to do the whole class.

Xenia Sun 09-Dec-12 19:23:21

Just give cards to his few friends or to those who give him cards once he has them.

On the names issue parents may well not have consented for their details to be distributed which is why parents usually draw up a list having asked parents if they want to be on it - it is very very common for ap arent to draw up a class address list and of course a parent could if they choose decline if they are unsociable or hiding from a violent partner or famous.

lopsided Sun 09-Dec-12 19:17:32

It's all very well responding, why send cards to children you don't know? Didn't you read the responses from the op? The child has speech and understanding delays and is unlikely to be able to tell the mum many names. I think its a shame. Though its a pain I think some children like to give and receive cards.

I would get the ones he can name, then return any that he receives and ask the teacher which kids he likes or plays with and do those too.

Toughasoldboots Sun 09-Dec-12 15:32:01

We have a class list with names, addresses, emails and phone numbers on for two of my dcs schools.
The class rep arranges it and you can opt out if you want to.

It's been really useful in the past.

mrz Sun 09-Dec-12 15:18:37

Eliza I know that children in the class won't know the names of the other children ...why do you think parents need class lists?

EIizaDay Sun 09-Dec-12 15:15:55

mrz - so are you really expecting children in the class not to know the names of the other children in their class??

I'm out of this conversation. Trying to reason with teachers just doesn't work.

mrz Sun 09-Dec-12 15:04:11

"Safeguarding children" otherwise known as Child Protection
Do you know for certain that there are no children in the class who have been removed from parents and revealing their general location (ie the school) could put them in danger?

Welovecouscous Sun 09-Dec-12 15:00:24

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

EIizaDay Sun 09-Dec-12 14:59:09

Oh for goodness sake. "Safeguarding" What a lot of bollocks some people speak. A list of childrens' names in a your child's classroom. FFS I'm sure all the OP wanted to do was to spell the childrens' names properly. It's not as if she was asking for addresses. What has happened to common sense ???

mrz Sun 09-Dec-12 14:55:41

You obviously haven't read what I wrote or you would know smile

mrz Sun 09-Dec-12 14:54:19

The Class list issue was safeguarding not Data protection

EIizaDay Sun 09-Dec-12 14:39:31

mrsz - yes but you really don't know enough about the Data Protection Act. That's obvious.

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Sun 09-Dec-12 13:31:06

I got round this by asking DD to tell me who she sits beside, and worked my way around the tables/chairs on the lay out asking her who sat where. Eventually got every name, as she knew everyone in her class.

PeppermintCreams Sun 09-Dec-12 13:30:46

I asked, and got a list of the first names. Nothing that my son couldn't have told me. We managed to piece together a list of 26 names between us before we got the list. I could have always just got the names off the coat pegs at Parent's Evening if I needed to as well.

mrz Sun 09-Dec-12 13:17:59

ElizaDay we know exactly what to do regarding giving out class lists having sat through 90min PPP

EIizaDay Sun 09-Dec-12 13:08:57

People spout out "data protection act" without any real knowledge of just what that act entails. It's a get out clause for them not knowing what to do.

sashh Thu 06-Dec-12 04:15:04

Since all i want is a list of first names, surely the programme contravenes data protection more than a hand written list of first names?

The school has to have a data controller and must state what and why the data is processed.

A programme for a show is something reasonable a school can process data for, providing class lists to parents is something they may not have registered to do.

You really need to check out data protection and confidentiality. I'm quite suprised you don't already know this.

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