# Talk

## year 1 maths, what should they be doing?

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familyfun Wed 05-Dec-12 21:43:17

no she doesnt ask to tell the time, she doesnt care really.
every night she wants to read and write, she loves rml and literacy at school.
maths seems more of a chore although she will ask me to write ehr some questions, it doesnt come natural to her.
like she knows her 10 times table and if i said 10 * 3 she would say 10 20 30 and knows 10 * 3 = 30 but if i said 10 +10+10 she starts counting fingers.
she has the magic cauldron game, snakes and ladders and loves quirkle and will work out scores. are there any other board games good for year 1 age?

PastSellByDate Wed 05-Dec-12 16:48:33

Familyfun:

She sounds like she's doing just fine - sincerely.

I would have been over the moon if DD1 was doing any of what you describe. I can understand you want to encourage it - but bear in mind that if it becomes a drudge for her, you'll put her natural enthusiasm off. If she's asking for all these extra things and more games/ more maths that's different.

However, if she isn't then it sounds to me like you're doing great and yes, maybe discovering a few new ideas/ new games to keep things interesting would be fun.

In terms of learning about telling time - it is KS1 - but for our DDs they really started this seriously toward the end of Y1/ beginning Y2.

Nice website about telling time here if that helps: www.teachingtime.co.uk/ - activities are designed by year group.

HTH

familyfun Wed 05-Dec-12 13:43:28

i know its early on and she is summer born so only 5.4 but reading seems to be really pushed but not maths.
last night i drew some shapes and she drew halves and quarters. she also worked out half add half is 1 by drawing cakes. i asked her loads of sums like 12 + 7 etc and she worked them all out using fingers and counting on or drawing little dots and she did the same for subtraction so it seems she can work things out quite well but said she hasnt done it at school.
she loves snakes and ladders but tends to just count on the 6 or whatever rather than saying 15 + 6.
will have to play shops a bit more often.
also she cannt tell the time at all, she just doesnt get it

PastSellByDate Tue 04-Dec-12 21:34:15

Hi familyfun:

Remember this is just the end of TERM 1, year 1. In most countries in Europe children haven't even started formal education yet - so already doing some times tables in Year 1 is very ambitious stuff.

Those targets are for the entire year (so by July end of Year 1). In which case it seems your DD has made a good start and you need to be thinking of games/ video games/ APPS to support her.

ADDING NUMBERS UP TO 12: Play snakes and ladders with 1 or 2 die.

ADDING NUMBERS UP TO 30: Play '21' or 'Blackjack' - it may seem strange but this is a brilliant way at getting them to add. Play open hands - so everyone can see. Ace = 1, Jack/ Queen/ King = 10. Deal 2 cards each player. Have your DD tot up what she had (say she got a Jack and a 3 - so 13) then ask her if she wants one more card or wants to stop there. If she says one more card - deal the card - have her add it and then she either goes bust (has a score >21), has black jack (has a score = 21) or holds (has a score approaching 21 and she doesn't want to risk going over, so stops there).

SUBTRACTING UP TO 12: Play snakes and ladders backwards - you can play the board more than once if using 2 dice and the game is going too fast.

Woodlands Junior School Mathszone is a fantastic resource in general: resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/maths/

Addition & Subtraction games/ worksheets here: resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/maths/numberskills.html

Ambleside primary's old web page has some useful maths resources here: www.amblesideprimary.com/ambleweb/numeracy.htm

Crickweb also has some nice KS1 numeracy web resources here: www.crickweb.co.uk/ks1numeracy.html

Most good newsagents or book shops also offer some nice workbooks. I'd go for something colourful which also visually supports addition/ subtraction with examples (i.e. picutres of 8 bunny rabbits + 2 more bunny rabbits not just numbers) - a good idea is to include your DD in chosing a workbook - so it's her choice as well.

My main advice - is keep it fun - and generally use the cumbria grid for learning Y1 syllabus or the Campaign for Real Education as guides for what should be covered/ where you're heading - rather than seeing it as something you have to achieve <4 months into the school year. It is a marathon - not a sprint. It's also important that your DD enjoys maths.

Find it in suprising forms: cooking (weighing/ measuring)
shopping (making change/ recognising coins)
weather (measure temperature/ amount of rain/ etc...)
height/ weight (record your DDs stats every so often)

HTH

familyfun Mon 03-Dec-12 20:09:29

oh and she plays on education city once or twice a week, maths year 1 games but cant do some

familyfun Mon 03-Dec-12 20:08:41

thank you both
mrz - yes she has to count in 2s upto 20 then back down to 0, upto 50 in 5s and back down and upto 100 in 10s and back down.
they have done a couple of number bonds, 9+1, 8+2, 7+3 and 6+4.
no near doubles.
can use a number line
doesnt know they undo each other
couldnt subtract from multiples of 10.

it seems she is really behind.
what games at home could i play with her to help? we play shops and she pays in 1s, 2s,5s,10s but cannot work out change.

in contrast she is a good reader

PastSellByDate Sun 02-Dec-12 18:14:35

Hi Familyfun:

Cumbria grid for learning has some nice support materials explaining what is on the maths curriculum by year here: numeracy.cumbriagridforlearning.org.uk/index.php?category_id=185

just select YEAR 1 (or appropriate year).

Now with the health warning that this is seriously ideal world stuff - Campaign for Real Education has an outline of what should be covered in areas of the primary curriculum by year here: www.cre.org.uk/primary_contents.html.

Just select the appropriate area of curriculum (in this case maths). This curriculum is 'gold standard' and when reading it you should bear in mind that it is unlikely your school is working to this standard - however, it does let you see what can be achieved in 'an ideal world'.

HTH

mrz Sun 02-Dec-12 16:04:50

In Y1 they would normally be counting in 2s, 5s and 10s not learning times tables

Mental recall of number bonds
6 + 4 = 10&#61603; + 3 = 10
25 + 75 = 10019 + &#61603; = 20

Derive and recall all pairs of numbers with a total of 10 and addition facts for totals to at least 5; work out the corresponding subtraction facts

Use near doubles
6 + 7 = double 6 + 1 = 13

use numberlines and practical resources to support calculation

Understand subtraction as 'take away' and find a 'difference' by counting up; use practical and informal written methods to support the subtraction of a one-digit number from a one digit or two-digit number and a multiple of 10 from a two-digit number

They begin to recognise that subtraction and addition ‘undo each other’.

Children apply their knowledge to problems

familyfun Sun 02-Dec-12 15:46:10

dd1 is 5.4 in y1 and is doing 2,5 and 10 times tables and shapes and basic adding,subtracting.
seems very basic.

whaeras in reading they are split into reading levels and seem to be flying along.

is that right for year 1?

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