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How do I avoid mixed methods reading.

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Carla123 Thu 15-Nov-12 00:28:23

Having read through many posts on the benefits of systematic phonics, I am convinced. However, much to my disappointment, Dd's school uses the old ORT reading scheme books, with corresponding lists of sight words. I am trying to get around this by segmenting the sight words and explaining the sounds. This is mostly fine, though I am having to cover some sounds and graphemes that (reception) Dd hasn't been taught in school yet. It feels too soon to discuss the alternative spellings within some of the 'tricky' sight words, until Dd learns them in class. I am reluctant to simply let her learn the sight words as 'sight words'. What do I do? Should I go ahead and teach Dd the alternative spellings myself, as they come up, or give in to the mixed methods? I don't want to confuse Dd.

learnandsay Thu 15-Nov-12 22:37:45

Er, no. The point is that your ay is pretty useless if she's never going to need it.

Carla123 Fri 16-Nov-12 13:44:03

I have been using this as a guide.

maizieD Fri 16-Nov-12 13:56:59

Excellent, Carla123. You can't go wrong with one of Debbie's charts. What she doesn't know about phonics and teaching phonics would go on the back of a postage stamp!

CecilyP Fri 16-Nov-12 13:58:45

'aigh' seems to be missing - unless I am looking in the wroing place.

maizieD Fri 16-Nov-12 14:17:32

I suspect that 'aigh' is missing because it is not one of the common ways of spelling /ay/. The chart doesn't show every single letter/sound correspondence, just the most common ones.

However, if they have been taught good 'phonics', most children are quite happy to accept that it is a way of spelling the /ay/ sound when it is pointed out to them.

For the more rare correspondences this 'incidental' teaching is just fine.

CecilyP Fri 16-Nov-12 14:34:39

I think that rather takes us back to what learnandsay was saying.

SenClayDavis Fri 16-Nov-12 16:06:36

It not on that particular code chart, but it is on other PI code charts. 'Aigh' is taught as part unit 9 of PI.

mrz Fri 16-Nov-12 17:18:40

So you agree that it's more useful for a child to incorrectly sound out

<s> <t> <r> <a> <ie> <t> that to be told <aigh> in this word spells the sound "ay"? Unbelievable!

mrz Fri 16-Nov-12 17:19:10


CecilyP Fri 16-Nov-12 21:13:11

I don't think it is a matter of either agreeing or disagreeing. Learnandsay is simply reporting what actually happened. Her DD managed to work it out from the limited information she already had. No doubt if she had been formally taught (and remembered) that aigh made and an ay sound, she could have used that, but don't forget she is only in the first term of reception.

mrz Fri 16-Nov-12 21:23:33

also remember learnandsay has been teaching her daughter to read since she was two

Pozzled Sat 17-Nov-12 11:25:15

OP, I am in exactly the same position with my reception DD. I have basically decided that we will do the synthetic phonics at home, using our own books- Songbirds and ORT phonics. We're also using the Reading Eggs website which is mostly SP with a few 'sight words'.

When she has sight words to learn, I explain the tricky phonemes and then get her to practise sounding it as normal. I also make connections with other words. So the school sent home 'he' I taught her that the 'e' makes 'ee' and showed her that it's the same in me, we etc. So she can sound out around 5 New words instead of having learned one by rote.

We do read the school books together as well, and we look at and talk about the pictures. But I make it clear that she is to read the words by sounding, not guessing. If she doesn't know a phoneme I might either: a) tell her the word b) tell her the phoneme and just move on or c) sit down and teach her the grapheme- phoneme correspondance. It depends how common the grapheme is and how tired she is.

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