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DD1 in a very good school, DD2 potentially going to SN school. Would DC3 still get into DD1 school?

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ClutchingPearls Sat 10-Nov-12 21:43:15

My DD1, by shear luck got in to an excellent primary this year. DD2 will start school in September, either with DD1 or an SN school.

Would sibling policy still apply when DS1 starts in a few years, or not because the closest (age wise) sibling isn't at the school? If ofcourse we chose to send DD2 to SN school.

I presumed it would still apply as DD1 is still at the school but DP is convinced otherwise.

mummytime Sat 10-Nov-12 21:58:04

Check with the school, but around here as long as the sibling is still at the school sibling preference still holds. At present even if the older sibling is in sixth form when the younger one joins (although they tried to change that a few years ago).

IwishIwasmoreorganised Sat 10-Nov-12 22:00:17

Why did your dd1 get in by sheer luck? Are you out of catchment and there was an unusually small number of applications?

In our area, catchment applications take priority over out of catchment with siblings, so your dd2 or dc3 may not get in if this is the case where you live.

DorisIsWaiting Sat 10-Nov-12 22:10:45

Like I wish child in catchment takes precendence over child out of catchment with sib. However it makes no difference which sibling order there just needs to be a sibling at the school for the sibling criteria to apply (and I've never heard of a case where that would be so).

Jenny70 Sat 10-Nov-12 22:44:32

definitely still a sibling if your child is at that school (any child).

Only be sure that eldest hasn't left school by the time youngest starts - friends got stuck as although eldest was in school at time of applications, he was leaving for secondary in the sept that younger boy started. So younger boy NOT a sibling and didn't get a place. So frustrating for them.

ClutchingPearls Sun 11-Nov-12 08:33:58

Thanks.

We are out of catchment and intake is only 15. So we were very lucky this year and catchment takes priority over siblings. So it would only bump us one place up the criteria.

When talking to head teacher re DD2, she has said the DD2 would get in next year based on the medical, emotional, behavioral and physical benefits of being at a small school with DD1. And she would assist us in getting DS in based on the support it would offer DD2 by him being with her at school.

Which is all good but now I've started to think DD2 would benefit from being at an SN school. And DD1 would have a rest from DD2 during the school day. So we would then have to deal with the normal criteria for getting DS in.

But SN school DD2 would be suitable for is private so push us significantly financially. She doesn't cope with car journeys and nearest state SN is too far way and had a high autistic intake and DD2 can't cope with that type of SN very well.

Money wise if DD2 goes to SN school, DS needs to be at DD1 school else we won't be able to afford to send him to the next nearest school and pay for DD2 school (we would need to send one by taxi because of start times). So would have to remove DD2 from SN school, making it pointless she went in the first place.

Its a real catch 22 for us.

Jenny70 Sun 11-Nov-12 08:52:06

Is it an option to enrol DD2 to the same school and assess how well they address her SN? It may be easier to go private later than swap other way.

My friend has a boy with quite sig developmental delay (wasn't walking at start of reception) and he is in the local school and they have been FAB with him. His specialist is amazed at his progress, he now walks, eats some solids, and is learning letters etc.

Her issue now is the gap between him & class is widening (yr1) and they aren't sure how many more years he can stay. If at yr2, 3 etc rest of class is reading, writing, learning tudors (or whatever) and he is still at letters, basic reading how do they cope with that?

My point is that the local school could be fab for her, simplify life, normalise her school exp etc (and save money). Even if only for a few years might be worth a try.

tiggytape Sun 11-Nov-12 09:19:39

If catchment takes priority over siblings, it wouldn't necessarily be the case that DD1 can get a place at the school even if both her siblings attended as opposed to just the oldest one.

As long as one of her siblings is there at the time of application (and will still be there at the time she starts), sibling priority applies. But since catchment trumps sibling links, DD1 getting a place would still depend on how many in-catchment children applied in her school year.

You'd only need to worry if DS1 was due to leave before DD1 started because then you'd lose that priority.

learnandsay Sun 11-Nov-12 10:19:53

Her issue now is the gap between him & class is widening (yr1) and they aren't sure how many more years he can stay. If at yr2, 3 etc rest of class is reading, writing, learning tudors (or whatever) and he is still at letters, basic reading how do they cope with that?

Isn't that potentially unfair/unfair on the child? Assuming that I was aware of what was going on I would hate to be in a class where children were reciting poetry and I knew that I was still learning to read. Sounds marginally cruel to me.

tiggytape Sun 11-Nov-12 12:47:53

learnandsay - almost all classes are a bit like that though.
In Year 7 the children who are classed as struggling may still be getting to grips with quite basic literacy skills whereas the most able pupils are probably capable of taking GCSEs in some subjects there and then.

In the Year 2 SATS, you get pupils who still cannot read and write sitting alongside others whose reading age is 11 or 12 already.

The point is - all schools will have classes with children who are 1 year apart in age but potentially 5 years (or even more) apart in ability and a good teacher will not only cater to all their needs but also ensure that the brightest children don't get bored or lazy and the least able don't get demotivated or upset. It isn't cruel - it is normal for such wide variation and it is dealt with sensitively.

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