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Year 1, struggling to read and jolly phonics phases

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sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 20:20:47


I wondered if anyone could tell me at what age the different phases of jolly phonics are delivered?

I've been concerned about my ds difficulties with learning to read. He was on EA+ in foundation due to input from SALT (he has a phonological disorder) but I couldn't get an IEP from them and they didn't share my concerns over his reading.

He's now in year 1 and will be 6 in Feb. Hes now on SA+ and after complaining I have received 1 IEP dated Jan 2012 and a new one (despite me asking to be involved in writing it). It says on the old one that his target for phonics was only partially met and needed to continue. It says that he is starting to recognise the sounds in phase 2. His new target is to complete phase 2.

He is not reading yet and he finds it all very difficult. He is highly intelligent and it's frustrating him along with his significant difficulty to write due to extreme hypermobility in his hands. Along with his speech difficulties, social anxiety and he experiences selective mutism type behaviour, I'm concerned that his anxiety is being compounded by it all.

An I right to be concerned that he is still in phase 2 and has been since at least Jan? The salt said he may need a different method than phonics as it doesn't suit all children. The senco is highly dismissive and tried to imply that it's me that's anxious. He also can't confidently count to 10.

He is the youngest of 3 and my dd 13 has ASD, auditory dyslexia, auditory processing difficulties, dyspraxic traits, ADHD, sensory processing difficulties and demand avoidance. I have just got her statementrd without a fight and into special school, I have learned a lot. I know the IEP's are rubbish and that after 2 years since being referred to salt there should be more than 2 IEP's.

Not sure if I should have posted in special needs. I think I'll post there too. I hope it makes sense as on my phone! Thanks in advance.

mrz Tue 18-Sep-12 20:25:15

There aren't any phases in Jolly Phonics

mrz Tue 18-Sep-12 20:31:01

Phase 2 is Letters & Sounds and yes you are right to be concerned. If he is on SA+ what other agencies are involved in supporting him?

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 20:32:07

Hmmmm? That leaves me with even more questions! I know they do jolly phonics. It says phase 2 of phonics, so are they doing more than 1 method? I'll have to ask for more clarification. Thanks

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 20:35:00

Overlap in posts!
He is under CDC awaiting further assessment to see what is causing his social anxiety. OT because of fine motor skill difficulties and hypermobility, SALT and learning support services. School doesn't communicate with any of them so I've asked for a CAF which they aren't happy about.

mrz Tue 18-Sep-12 20:39:11

I think you need to push for a CAF and EP involvement.
It sounds as if they are following Letters & Sounds but using Jolly Phonics resources (because there aren't any for L&S).

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 21:18:07

Thanks mrz

Are you able to give me a rough idea of how far behind he is and how long phase 2 is meant to last?

mrz Tue 18-Sep-12 21:22:17

The government's expectation is that children will be working at phase 5 in Y1. Phase 2 is meant to last 6 weeks.

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 21:26:09

Not good at all! He was in stage 2 on the iep dated Jan so prob before that. That's a hell of a lot longer than 6 weeks! Thanks once again mrz, I really appreciate it.

MrsShrek3 Tue 18-Sep-12 21:29:37

Hi again Mrz smile
I was also wondering if there had been any mention of EP and perhaps community paed referral?

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 21:47:05

I've had to fight just to get an IEP for him and constantly being dismissed about my concerns. I've only officially known what stage he's at today after finally getting an IEP which confirms what I knew from the work I do with him at home. He seems to have probs with visual memory and apart from his name does not recognise any words by sight as far as I'm aware. I've got a meeting with the senco next week and boy is she gonna get some awkward questions. She doesn't want to call a CAF but I put the request in writing along with requesting a copy of the IEP's. I'll be pinning her down on that as well. I did know the Ed Psych for this area as he dealt with my dd and dx her dyslexia but they've had a reshuffle. I may well email him anyway as he is the Principle Ed Psych.

MrsShrek3 Tue 18-Sep-12 22:26:02

It may well be a big advantage to already know the process having had your dd experience iyswim. It means that you know how the system works and will not be easily fobbed off with excuses as opposed to action and the information you want. it's also worth remembering that the DS you have at home may present himself quite differently at school, many do. That said, I'm probably thinking more in terms of the way they behave than academically.
Good luck smile

sazale Tue 18-Sep-12 22:30:37

Thanks mrsshrek3,
Behaviour wise he's over compliant, bless him. He's a live wire that stops talking and asking amazing questions at home but at school he's an introvert. The minute we get to the school his whole demeanour changes and he stops talking or talks so quietly it's difficult to hear him. I think once he's there he appears fine and maybe he is but at home he displays anxiety around school.

sazale Wed 26-Sep-12 18:07:12

Had a meeting at school today and the SENCO finally admitted that not only is he on phase 2 of phonics but he's still on the first set (s,a,t,p) and they started them at the end of F1! She has now called in the specialist teaching service but I'm annoyed it's been left so long. No wonder he's finding things difficult!

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