Levels in Year one?

[littlemiss06]

Hi all just wondering if anyone knows what is expected in year one, SATS level, also the oxford reading tree level? For the 'average' ability child? Thanks :)

[redskyatnight]

"average" child is expected to be at 1a/2c at the end of Year 1. "Average" child is expected to be on orange or turquoise book bands (not sure that is in ORT levels) at the end of the year.

[AurraSing]

My dc school has slightly lower expectations - 1b for the end of year 1 and 2b at the end of yr2.

[Iamnotminterested]

1b.

ORT? dunno, go by book band.

[Fraidylady]

I would not be worrying myself about 'average' ability for reading in Y1 (particularly this early in the year). Children are developing at vastly different rates cognitively at this age.

Some children find decoding words really easy and 'can read' Harry Potter and The Chronicles of Narnia (MN favourites) but don't understand a word of them. Some children start Y1 on pink books and progress steadily, and are able to read and comprehend better than the 'precocious readers' by the end of the year.

[littlemiss06]

Thanks all, no not worried was just curious, my daughter is showing signs of problems, shes no where near reaching level 1 and is only on oxford reading tree stage 1 think thats pink, she has problems, they are watching her now as she is very behind, so was just wondering the averages so I know where abouts she is :) Not worried though, shes my little princess and happy with her as she is

[Fraidylady]

As long as she's being monitored - that's the main thing. Children's targets are set individually, so don't worry about the average. Your dd's target will reflect what she can do. However, make sure that your dd is getting extra help if her teachers feel that she needs it. That's what you need to keep an eye on.

ORT doesn't correlate with phonics teaching. It might be worthwhile to ask the teacher if your dd could have home readers that reinforce her current phonics level. (ORT is a look and say scheme. Many schools are still using it for home and guided readers (we are!) because they haven't got the money to buy new sets of reading books as they cost a fortune.

[Anna85]

Not sure on levels but for the reading levels my DS is only on 1+ and some are on stage 7 so shows how each child ranges in ability!

[IndigoBell]

'watching her' isn't the same as doing anything.

If she has been at school a whole year and can't read CVC words yet school should be doing more than just watching her.

So talk to school, and ask what they are doing to help her catch up.

[littlemiss06]

Sorry yes your right indigobell, we just had her parents evening, they said shes really behind, they cant get her to write, she cant work with numbers over 5, shes at the very basic with her number work, her spellings she rarely ever gets them occassionally gets 1 right and on one occassion got 4 correct which was amazing for her :) She hasnt really made any progress since reception, she can sound out some basic words but regularly sounds out then says a totally different word, she works better if she has someone with her but obviously at the moment they arent able to do that with her so a lot of the time she switches off, loses concentration and messes about, she regularly gets put on the black cloud for messing about or doing something wrong, he said she forgets so easily, one day you can go through something and the next she will have totally forget everything. She is adopted, shes been with us since she was 7 months old and in care since she was 11 days old, so there is all that behind her as her mum drank with her as well so obviously that may play a part, her teacher said he wasnt aware of her background and didnt know she was adopted, he was going to speak to the headteacher after parents evening about her, he said she is very young and it may just click with her but I said to him how long do you leave it though to see if that happens and he said he didnt know and was going to speak to the headteacher to see what they should do, I am going to see what he says about that and then think I will request they get someone in to assess her, if they havent already requested it themselves

[slalomsuki]

Really stupid question here about this but how do I find out book bands or the colour schemes and how the correlate across publishers. DD comes home with ORT books, Ginn books and Neilson books and I cannot see how they relate to each other level wise as some seem hard and others easy.

[IndigoBell]

LittleMiss - this sounds quite serious, and may be worth getting advice on the SN boards.

To get full time 1:1 she needs a statement. To get a statement she needs to not make progress, and be unable to access the curriculum.

She sounds awfully close to fitting those criteria, so you need to become more informed.

A parent can apply for a statement if school doesn't. So you need to start to find out a lot more details, and work out at what point you'll apply for a statement amongst other things.

As to getting her asessed, who do you want her assessed by, and what for?

Do you want her seen by a paed? Or an Ed Psych? And what do you want them to look for?

Anything medical (like a paed) you organise yourself, through your GP.

Don't think just because school have raised all these concerns, that they are able to help you. With the best will in the world there's an awful lot that school can't do, but you can.....

[Fraidylady]

You could be describing an adoptee at our school in Y1 (adopted at a later age than your dd however). Have you had any help from the adoption services? We are currently going through this process: GP (just go to voice your concerns - get a letter from school to back you up)/paed referral /cognition+learning assessment/ed psych and will hopefully get a CAMHS referral soon.
Y1 can be a difficult and frustrating year for parents (and teachers) while all these time-consuming referrals are taking place and documents are being passe hither and yon. I sympathise.

[Kardashianw]

She sounds like my ds was in year 1. He couldn't write, add or take away. U thought he was speeding until they said in parents eve that he is struggling a shock to my system.
However with practice, one to one and building on confidence he is now average achiever in Year 2. My thoughts was a maturity thing he is summer born and now I have dd a summer born who probably will go the same way.

My ds did phonics every morning which the school organized that really helped him and now he does number counts and I can see a huge difference in his maths.

He also was on a statement for the things he couldn't do.

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[ellesabe]

Would expect average-ability pupils to be level 1a by the end of Year 1

[littlemiss06]

I've spoken to the headteacher this morning and he said she was really behind when she came in to reception, he said the school are due assessments in december so to wait until theyve done this assessment and he can look at were she is at, he also said he is due to spend some time in year 1 so he will observe her as well while hes in there and make notes on her and then once we know these results we can take it from there

[Fraidylady]

I don't know if anyone else agrees, but....
I think you should go to the GP now and try to get a referral to a paediatrician as well, so you're forearmed and time isn't wasted later. (The paed appt will probably take a couple of months, and by that time you should have observations from school as well.
Talk to the SENCo.