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24-hour sickness rule - any point appealing?

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cyanarasamba Thu 13-Oct-11 11:19:17

DS was sick in the playground at 10am this morning so I was called to pick him up. The lady in the office explained they have a 24-hour exclusion rule for vomiting, so said he wouldn't be in till Monday.

Thing is, he is absolutely fine. As a toddler he would quite often cough and then be sick, although this has become more infrequent now (he has just started reception). We give him an inhaler at night which seems to have helped. Our GP explained it's common in kids for their stomach valves react like this.

Is there any point me talking to the school to explain this, and asking if it would be ok for him to attend tomorrow, particularly as it will be 23 hours since the vomiting? I have no problem with being called in to take him home if he has been sick, just seems a shame for him to miss another day because of it.

cyanarasamba Thu 13-Oct-11 11:27:56

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jbl2312 Thu 13-Oct-11 11:27:59

it is usually the case with vomiting or diarrhea, its not just due him passing it onto someone else its also a case if he is a bit poorly he will be more susceptible to getting something else..we have the same rule where i work but with the adults it has to be 48 hours

Peachy Thu 13-Oct-11 11:29:56

Probably not OP; DS3 was sick becuase school forgot he can't have milk and gave it to him, still sent him home even though he is fine after he sicks it up

cyanarasamba Thu 13-Oct-11 11:44:00

Thanks ladies - thought that might be the case.

May need a new thread, but WIBU to take him to Legoland tomorrow?

mrsbaffled Thu 13-Oct-11 11:44:59

You are lucky it's only 24 hours - it's 48 at our school.

I personally wouln't bother complaining. The school needs to reduce the chance of infection and they can't be sure if it was just caused by a cough, or by a bug.

mistlethrush Thu 13-Oct-11 11:50:22

The first time I rang school up to say that DS had been car sick on way to school and I'd had to turn round and sort things out so would be late, they were hmm. However, when I said I'd been to the Drs about it, they were a bit less concerned - and came out to assess the illness of ds when I got there at 9.30am. He (as normal after such an episode) was completely himself and clearly not ill. Subsequently, I've not had trouble ringing up to say we're going to be late for that reason, or even the day that I had to go in and apologise that someone had better take a bucket of water out to sort out the front step blush. If you've talked to the Dr previously about it, they may be less concerned - but if they still stick to the exclusion, no you wnbu to take him to legoland tomorrow.

startail Thu 13-Oct-11 11:50:54

I'd write a letter saying exactly this, give it to child to hand to teacher on Friday morning. Leave promptly without speaking to anyone.
I really think schools encouraging giving not ill children time off is a bad idea. It can only encourage children to try and get days off when they vaguely don't feel like it. Also before you know it they'll be moaning about you ruining their OFSTEAD 99.99999% attendance target. At least that's what the senior school do here, you absolutely can't win.

roadkillbunny Thu 13-Oct-11 11:58:56

My dd coughs herself sick so I know where you are coming from with that, our school has a 48 hour rule with S&D and they have to be very inflexable with this for good reason as there is always going to be someone who claims their child was only sick because they coughed (or something along those lines) when in reality the child has a bug because they want their child to go into school the next day for any number or reasons.
I fear we are going to have an interesting time next year when DS starts school, he is sensitive to dairy (it is looking like he has IBS) and his poo is often quite runny. Preschool know all about his issues and are great and even though I know the reception teacher and staff are great they have a set of rule they need to abide to for every ones health and safety. I can see DS missing quite a bit of school when he is not actually sick.

rubyrubyruby Thu 13-Oct-11 12:01:35

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SquishyCinnamonSwirls Thu 13-Oct-11 13:05:02

48 hours at our school and here in my setting with good reason.
There are plenty of parents that will say it was caused by coughing when it really isn't, and then everyone else becomes ill which can have big ramifications on staffing, attendance and the well-being of other children and their families.

The rule is there for good reason so yes you would be unreasonable to send him in or complain but not unreasonable to go to Legoland as long as you're absolutely certain that coughing was the cause.

gramercy Thu 13-Oct-11 13:09:01

There was a letter from ds's school this week saying they had a child who was undergoing treatment for cancer and therefore would people please adhere to the sickness & diarrhoea 48-hour rule as an outbreak in the school could be fatal to the child concerned.

DeWe Thu 13-Oct-11 13:16:42

I've got this with dd2 year 3 atm. She threw up very slightly on the way into school (just water as far as I could see) and now has to be off for 48 full hours... then the rest of that day. So if it was Monday she couldn't go back before Thursday.

She has spent today rushing round the house, being perfectly fine, including vigorous bouncing on the trampoline and doing headstands... I think she's unlikely to be sick again. She is currently seeing whether her prosthesis helps her do a head stand. hmm

As she has a history of any emotion effecting her tummy and I think she was just excited because she had her first assembly today, I feel a bit irritated that she has to miss tomorrow too. I'm wondering about going and begging the GP for a covering letter... otherwise you may meet me at Legoland tomorrow.

blackeyedsusan Thu 13-Oct-11 13:23:44

you could always take him at 10 tomorrow with a letter stating that ds was off sick yeasterday and you have waited the required 24 hours before returning himm to school. not sure what reaction you will get though.

CustardCake Thu 13-Oct-11 13:40:38

It is true. There are children who vomit when they cough ad there are children who have runny poo due to intolerances or bowel conditions, but unless a Dr confirms this to the school, they are not going to make exceptions.

And nor should they - the 48 hour rule especially means 2-3 days of work missed for a parent which is something most people are very keen to avoid so its too tempting to be a bit economical with the truth if your boss is onl your back or you're not going to be paid

In fairness it can seem pointless sitting at home all of Thursday afternoon when your child hasn't been sick since late Tuesday night and feels totally fine and is eating like a horse BUT bugs that cause these things linger for longer than the symptoms and if you infect half the teaching staff and kids, its not really fair.

Snowy27 Thu 13-Oct-11 14:38:17

We have several children in school with lowered immune systems- of course by the time a child has been sick (usually on me, they always seem to aim in my direction!) it might be too late and the germs are swimming about freely, I always ring the parents of children with immune problems to let them know or contact the specialist nurses, but keeping a child that's vomited off might stop other children catching something and getting really sick. I know when I worked for the NHS it was 48 hours after your last bout of D or V.

dikkertjedap Thu 13-Oct-11 16:42:33

At our school it is 48 hours. Unfortunately at our school most parents totally ignore the rule and send clearly sick children in (some with fresh vomit on their school uniform), parents then quickly disappear and don't answer their phones hmm

Your case is clearly different, but even in your case you can't be 100 per cent sure that it is not a sickness bug, because there is definitely a lot of sickness about at the moment (unfortunately I had several cases in my class today and I expect several more tomorrow, this is been going for two weeks now).

nowwearefour Thu 13-Oct-11 17:50:43

yes you are v lucky to only have a 24 hr rule. just abide by it- i did for the 48hr rule earlier in the term even though i knew dd2 was fine- the school needs a blanket rule as they cant risk lots of children getting infected. annoying but worht it just so your child doesnt get infected when you dont want them to

Itsjustafleshwound Thu 13-Oct-11 17:52:55

FGS - keep him at home - the school isn't doing it to punish you, but just to make sure that other (vulnerable) children don't get ill.

Panzee Thu 13-Oct-11 17:54:26

There's nothing wrong in waiting just 24 hours (i.e. 10am), I have said that to parents (although our school prefers 48 hours). Usually what happens is the same as dikkertjedap. sad

pinkytheshrinky Thu 13-Oct-11 17:57:29

I have a diabetic dd and I love people who bring their kids back early to infect everyone else - a bad bug can cause my dd to have fits through low blood sugar. It should be 48 hours and people should keep to it - I couldn't give a toss if it is inconvenient for the parents

Hulababy Thu 13-Oct-11 18:04:33

Most schools are fine if there is a medical reason behind what might cause non-bug related sickness or loose stools. You just need to get it confirmed by a doctor and get a note from the doctor to school. You do still have to look out for symptoms of bugs though, just in case.

It is 24 hours at the school I work at and at DD's school.

DD came home from school with tummy cramps on Tuesday lunchtime, only really had a couple of bouts of d, but not really anything of concern. Kept her off yesterday, she had no more toilet issies just some tummy pains after eating. But I sent her back today and she has been fine.

mrz Thu 13-Oct-11 18:14:34

I was sick at school on Monday and they wouldn't let me in on Tuesday ...

the NHS Direct website states
f you have vomiting or diarrhoea you should stay away from school or work for 3 days shock after your symptoms have disappeared.

Feenie Thu 13-Oct-11 18:27:16

Hope you are feeling a lot better now, mrz x

mrz Thu 13-Oct-11 18:33:10

Thank you

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