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Are these odd words to learn in Reception

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Schnullerbacke Sat 24-Sep-11 20:52:27

Had things like: it, at, up, dog, and, I, in, am etc last week. This week its look, you, away, to, the. It just seems like an odd jump to me.

JKSLtd Sat 24-Sep-11 20:54:42

They don't seem odd to me, DS1 has just left Reception.

The first lot are straightforward words that you can sound out, so teaches then that strategy,

The second lot are 'tricky' words that you can't sound out and have to learn to recognise as whole words.

Schnullerbacke Sat 24-Sep-11 20:56:59

Fair doos, I just thought it would take a while until the tricky ones appear. We had great fun trying to teach her 'the' today - both of us dont have English as first language. God knows what her accent will turn into smile

JKSLtd Sat 24-Sep-11 21:12:57

'the' is a majorly tricky one, esp as DS1 still says it 'vuh' so cannot possibly spell it!

I think the main thing is to get them to understand there are 2 types of words, those you can sound out & those you can't. It took DS all year to figure out most of them smile

sleepy78 Sat 24-Sep-11 21:13:25

There is a list of 45 words that all children have to (try to) learn to read and write in Reception - google will have them somewhere I'm sure! This week's words might seem hard but they come up a lot in their reading books so they start them early.
Hope that helps!

Sirzy Sat 24-Sep-11 21:16:38

Sirzy Sat 24-Sep-11 21:16:57

posted to soon - that list is to the high frequency words for reception

sleepy78 Sat 24-Sep-11 21:27:16

Well done sirzy - you found what I was too lazy to find couldn't find!

IndigoBell Sun 25-Sep-11 08:13:21

There is a list of 45 words that all children have to (try to) learn to read and write in Reception - this list is old! Kids no longer have to learn these 45 words in reception.

Instead they're meant to be taught by phonics.

Unfortunately from that list you're kid is bringing home it doesn't look like they are sad

So yes the list is odd, and against govt recommendations.

What they should be doing is letters and sounds phase 1 or the equivalent sad

sleepy78 Sun 25-Sep-11 08:28:16

oops! They've changed everything since I moved abroad! blush
But really, these words are useful and often, you can't learn to read or write them using phonics alone, so I wouldn't worry if the list is still being used! Government recommendations aren't always perfect imo!

maverick Sun 25-Sep-11 08:37:21

In the DfE's programme, Letters and Sounds, phase 1 is not about teaching reading -it's rather pointless, IMO, phonological awareness exercises. Teaching reading using synthetic phonics starts in Phase 2. of Letters and Sounds.

InvaderZim Sun 25-Sep-11 08:43:44

Actually, phonics is taught alongside "sight words", common words which cannot be sounded out phonetically, or those which use more complicated phonics such as double letter sounds (digraphs) like 'th'.

spanieleyes Sun 25-Sep-11 08:46:02

Phonics shouldn't be taught alongside "sight words", that rather defeats the object of teaching phonics!

sleepy78 Sun 25-Sep-11 08:56:12

I work in an international school where I have more freedom to choose the way I teach and we do exactly that, spanieleyes - a mixture of phonics and sight word recognition lets children learn the irregular words as well as teaching them to sound out new words. It also caters for different learning styles. If we didn't practice sight words, it would take children years to read and spell words such as through or because. The phonics involved in words such as these are very complicated.

dikkertjedap Sun 25-Sep-11 09:07:51

Rather than just learning a list of tricky words you can read a book and point out the tricky words with your child repeating them. Makes it more interesting.

sleepy78 Sun 25-Sep-11 09:09:03

Good point dikkertjedap - there are different ways of going about it.

maverick Sun 25-Sep-11 09:20:51

Forget 'learning styles', they have no basis in reality. Sorry.

coccyx Sun 25-Sep-11 09:55:23

Maverick always manages to get her website in on a reading thread!

maizieD Sun 25-Sep-11 10:04:31

That is because maverick is extremely knowledgable about the teaching of reading and issues attached to learning to read. Her web site is well worth reading as it is based on research findings, not opinon or beliefs. It will help to counteract some of the well meaning nonsense which gets repeated on these reading threads. (Such as the daft belief that there are words which cannot be sounded out).

Feenie Sun 25-Sep-11 10:32:55

Hijack alert - was pleased with ds's Reception teaching, he was reading Rigby Star, and his blending was coming along nicely.

Fast forward to Year 1 and they have inexplicably switched him to ORT. He has gone from blending beautifully to reading 'furniture' and 'curtains' without looking at the page. <sigh>

I am showing admirable restraint in the readng record book so far, but the first person to mention picture clues to me will be very, very sorry!

Incidentally, (and back on thread), the tricky words in Letters and Sounds are not taught as sight words, they are taught as phonetically regular with a 'tricky' bit.

mrz Sun 25-Sep-11 11:19:24

InvaderZim learning sight words alongside phonics went out when the searchlight model was dropped although sadly some schools cling to it just as they cling to ORT and phonics fades after reception sad

yellowsubmarine41 Sun 25-Sep-11 11:30:59

Is it usual to be getting words home to spell with your children at this stage of reception?

mrz Sun 25-Sep-11 11:32:41

Not if the school is still following the old NLS

yellowsubmarine41 Sun 25-Sep-11 11:41:21

What's NLS?

mrz Sun 25-Sep-11 11:45:15

National Literacy Strategy (scrapped 2006)

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