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end of year 3 national average attainment

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lostarrow Fri 25-Feb-11 13:41:14

Hi, in a recent school consultation the teacher said it was a matter of policy not to reveal the alphanumeric level of attainment in literacy and maths but to compare the current level with the exepected national average attainment for the end of the academic year. (Ahead, average, below the end of year national average attainment)

What are these levels? It seems odd that since we have levels from the end of ks1 teacher assessment we can't continue to be updated

I'm just guessing but if a child left KS1 at 3b, would it be expected to reach 3a or as high as 4 by the end of the following (this current) academic year?

Thanks, experts in levels!

mrz Fri 25-Feb-11 13:58:29

By law schools have to report NC levels in Y2 and Y6
Most schools aim for 2 sub levels progress

viewfromawindow Fri 25-Feb-11 15:54:03

I'd be very suprised if you were told a 3b. Our school reports the Y2 by sublevel up to 2a and over that they are simply a 3. Obviously they could be a 3b but this will make it a very difficult task for the school to show improvment between Y6 and Y3 IYSWIM.
Look on the Primary frameork website under APP. This will give you a full breakdown of the assessment criteria for each element of reading, writing, speaking&listening, writing and science.

Feenie Fri 25-Feb-11 17:11:20

There isn't a Y3 national average - there are expected levels of 2b at the end of Y2 and 4b at the end of Y6, and schools try to guess how children can make neat little equal leaps between those.

What's required to do this is a jump of one and a half sublevels per academic year (wherever a child starts in Y2 - because as mrz says, schools have to ensure children make least 2 whole levels progress between Y2 and Y6).

So expected progress divided up neatly would look like this:

Y2 - 2b
Y3 - Halfway between a 2a and a 3c
Y4 - 3b
Y5 - Halfway between 3a and 4c
Y6 - 4b

It's easier to see when using APS points instead of sublevels - it's 3 points for expected progress.

Lots of schools aim for 2 sublevels per academic year - that's good progress, as opposed to expected progress and would raise the CVA of a school.

As viewfromawindow says, a level 3 at Y2 only has to be called a level 3, it doesn't have to be subdivided. Fwiw, children in my LEA can only be a level 3 if they are a 3b - 3cs don't exist. But we have no problem showing progress, and have plenty of high level 5s and some 6s in Year 6.

JoArcher Mon 04-Jul-11 22:38:25

Let me get this straight. If the whole class was at the national average of Yr 2 at the end of Yr 1, what should they achieve by the end of Yr 3 if they have retained their advantage?

IndigoBell Tue 05-Jul-11 07:38:21

Jo - KS1 is a bit different to KS2.

If your child is a 2b at the end of Y1 you would be aiming for a 3b at the end of Y2.

Ie you would expect 3 sub levels of progress in KS1, which is more than is expected in KS2.

I can't remember the exact figures, but something like 20-30% of kids make a level 3 in Y2.

Also, 2b isn't the national average at the end of Y2 - it's the minimum expected level.

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