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Quick question: Do I have a right to see my child's EYFS scores?

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onesock · 13/07/2010 20:45

That's it basically. School will not release them, says there is nothing to be gained. But I'd really like to see her profile and where she needs support.

I'm not interested in anyone else's just my DD's and I would really like to see how she's done over the last 2yrs.

So, can I instist on seeing them? I don't want to get on the wrong side of school but I don't understand why they wont show them to me.

Truth is, I'm far more interested in the breakdown than the overall score as that wont tell me where she needs support.

Thanks.

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zapostrophe · 13/07/2010 20:52

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julybutterfly · 13/07/2010 20:53

Have you had her report?

DS' school use the EYFS assessment scale to pretty much write the reports. It's not very personable but it does mean I could work out roughly where DS and DD were

link here

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PrettyCandles · 13/07/2010 20:53

At ds's nursery we have free access to all his records. The nursery will hand them over to his infant school when he starts in Reception, and when he leaves after y2 to go to junior school, the infant school will hand them over to us. So I don't see what'sso all-fired confidential about the school's records of your child. Besides, isn't their some sort of Freedom of Information Act that gives you the right to see such things?

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mrz · 13/07/2010 20:57

All EYFS providers must provide parents, carers or guardians with a written summary
of a child?s progress against the early learning goals and the assessment scales. A copy of the EYFS profile summary scores reported to the local authority must also be provided to parents, carers or guardians if requested. Providers should avoid reporting raw scores without providing an explanation of what they mean. Parents, carers or guardians should be involved in the assessment process on a regular, ongoing basis and encouraged
to participate in their child?s early learning and development. Providers must offer a
reasonable opportunity for the parent, carer or guardian to discuss the EYFS profile and
summary scores.

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onesock · 13/07/2010 21:05

Thanks everyone.
I can tell they've used the info to write her reports but I want to see raw scores out of 9. So if she only gets a 5 for the social aspect then I know I need to gently encourage her with this.
So, to be clear, I can request the raw scores? Thanks

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Lara2 · 16/07/2010 18:10

They should provide you with the scores she gained on entry to Year R - her entry profile and the scores on exit - where she is now. It's a legal requirement for them to give you this information. All the scores on the EYFSP are 'raw' - so she may have scored 3 in social development when she first entered Reception, but now scores a 7 at the end of the year.

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Lara2 · 16/07/2010 18:11

Just to add - I find it more than shocking that the school is telling you this. TBH, if my child's school was telling me there was 'nothing to bge gained' by showing me her assessments for the year, I'd be looking for a new school!

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GiddyPickle · 16/07/2010 19:07

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muddleduck · 16/07/2010 19:57

I agree with the school that there is nothing to be gained from seeing these scores.

I have my sons scores and there is quite a wide range on the different scales. But this has nothing to do with 'ability' and everything to do with 'interest'. He got 9's for the things that he chooses to do (e.g., reading) and 6s for things that he doesn't choose to do (e.g., writing). His teacher has confirmed that there is no difference in his ability at these two things and in teacher led activities does really well on both. The scores just refect what she was able to observe him do outside teacher-led activities. I

I can honestly say we learned nothing from these scores. And I admire your school for saying this to. (Although as others have said you have a right to see them.)

That said, I would probably insist on seeing them too

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preghead · 16/07/2010 20:00

I have a related question - sorry to hijack. My son has just finished reception at an independent school. He got a written report booklet, very informative, lots of positives, an area for improvemnet etc - one for each subject area and a general one from the teacher and head. At the end of last term he got a smaller version with A B C graded for effort and attainment - I assume compared to the rest of the class. All seems fine to me and similar to what I got at school.

I was just wondering tho about the EYFS - my understanding was that private schools still had to adhere to EYFS - indeed they were recently inspected by the LEA for EYFS and their Independent Schools Inspection report makes constant reference to the EYFS provision. However, we never seem to see any of the "compared to expected national levels/rest of class" etc stuff that friends in state schools get. I know for a fact that his nursery record never made it to the school either - they asked for it but I noticed the other day when dropping ds2 off that they had never sent it!. Not sure if any of this mattters - just wondering what the deal is for EYFS and independent schools?
They got rated outstanding for EYFS by the LEA so I am just wondering if there is other record-keeping going on somewhere that I should ask to see too?

OP - I am sure you have the right to see any recorded info on your child - can't understand their stance.

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mrz · 16/07/2010 20:13

preghead you will find the information here

The EYFS assessment requirements are that:

  • All providers must make arrangements for each child within the final year of the EYFS to be assessed throughout the year by a practitioner. Practitioners must use the 13 scales and have regard to the scale points as set out in Appendix 1 of the Statutory Framework for the Early Years Foundation Stage to complete the EYFS Profile as a record of achievement.
  • This must be completed in the final term of the year in which the child reaches the age of five and no later than 30 June in that term.
  • Providers must permit the relevant local authority to enter the premises at all reasonable times in order to observe the implementation of the arrangements for the completion of the EYFS Profile.
  • Providers must permit the relevant local authority to examine and take copies of documents and other articles relating to the EYFS Profile and assessments.
  • Providers must take part in all reasonable moderation activities specified by their local authority.
  • Providers must provide the relevant local authority with such information relating to the EYFS Profile and assessment as they may reasonably request.
  • Within the final term of the EYFS providers must provide the parent of a child in relation to whom the EYFS Profile has been completed with:
    o a written summary reporting the child's progress against the early learning goals and the assessment scales;
    o where the parent requests it, a copy of the EYFS Profile;
    o details of the arrangements under which the EYFS Profile and its results may be discussed between a practitioner and the parent, giving a reasonable opportunity for the parent to discuss the EYFS Profile and its results with that practitioner.
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mumbar · 16/07/2010 20:47

well mrz has answered the question here already.

Basically yes you can see it, are entitled to see it, and also all of the records they have kept of each area of development.

AFAIK all setting must do this even independant altho I could be wrong as I work and always have in the state setting. My ds went to private day nursery but got govn funded 3 hrs/day and afaik so do children in public school pre prep nurseries and therefore they must follow the eyfs.

Ask again and say its the freedom of information act and govn guidelines of eyfs that allows you access to his profile and the oppotunity to discuss this with them.

HTH

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mrz · 16/07/2010 21:01

The law applies to any EY setting (childminders, pre schools,day nurseries, nursery schools nursery classes maintained or PVI) that provides for children at the end of the EYFS
Personally I wouldn't bother to mention the freedom of information act as the law is clear about the rights of parents to see the profile summary scores if they request to do so.

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preghead · 16/07/2010 21:17

Thank you both for answering my EYFS in all settings question - that makes perfect sense. I still don't quite understand how a private reception class doesn't have to provide the same scores that the state reports apparently show and still comply with EYFS. I guess they are doing stuff behind the scenes. My ds had a great first year in school and is happy and thriving so I have decided I am not going to worry about it

So next year y1 what stage will he be? Is this foundation stage 1? At this point are independent schools free to do their own thing and completely opt out of state guidelines? (this seems weird to me? They still do GCSE/A levels etc (but no SATS??))

Sorry for hijack BTW - will butt out now

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mrz · 16/07/2010 21:25

preghead a private reception class does have to provide parents with the same information as a state school

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mrz · 16/07/2010 21:26

Year 1 is Key Stage 1

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preghead · 16/07/2010 21:34

So they just choose not to unless you ask? i.e they are doing the same sort of scoring against national guidelines etc but just don't publish it? Hmmm why not? Why do they always have to be different! Not sure it matters enough to worry about for us, I am just curious. Thanks.

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