Topic Takeover - the definitive stockpile

(27 Posts)
Stratter5 Thu 22-Oct-15 08:19:24

Original credited to *atticusclaw2

water
water
water
water purification tablets/lifestraw
fold up water carrier
glucose tablets
cereal bars/survival biscuits
headache tablets/plasters/small first aid kit
essential medication
multivitamins
copies of important documents
photo of each family member
torch and head torch plus spare batteries
matches
knife
local area map
emergency whistle
small tarp
bin bags
waterproof coat
mylar blanket
compass
£100 in small denominations
wind up/solar radio
candles
glow sticks
parachute cord bracelet
paper and pencil
hand sanitizer
toilet paper
babywipes
hard wearing gloves
walking socks
sleeping bag

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 09:16:57

What's the aim with this list?
Surviving in the wilds, a city, just getting to somewhere else?

This is where i struggle with whats needed tbh. My house is self sufficient we could survive 3 plus months with no power and the food we have. Longer during winter.

But what scenarios require everyone to leave their houses? So if its a house fire say we would stay with family we would need baby bed, pram, clothes (copies of docs are in the fire safe although that needs updating) but what else?

And what scenarios require us all to leave an area?

Stratter5 Thu 22-Oct-15 09:23:57

I work on the most likely scenarios, which for me are a pandemic or exceptional weather. We're not going to have a terrorist attack, a major earthquake, or tsunami here, I think any form of WW3 is unlikely, and bio terrorism is close enough to a pandemic scenario to be prepped for in a virtually similar way.

So for me, unless it's something like flooding, bugging IN is most likely.

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 10:29:33

Yh I think house fire is the only likely scenario we would need to leave the house for.
So I guess that's as simple as check the insurance and update the docs in the fire safe.
What important docs do you have copies of?
So far I have,
Passports
Insurance papers (building, personal)
Bank details
Contact details for insurance and accountants
A bit of spare cash (maybe a spare bankcard) - don't know what's sensible though. I mean in a house fire local family would collect us (or we could walk round) and go back to theirs and a hotel is further so we wouldn't be going overnight any where.

TheSlightlyEmbarrassedPrepper Thu 22-Oct-15 11:41:09

I would bug in for most situations. I would leave in the event of flood or fire.

I am re-starting with my prepping after a breakup which resulted in me moving to a tiny place with no storage.

I have;

Water (not enough but I haven't the space to store much more)
Water purification tablets
Cash
Tins of food
Candles and tealights
Homemade buddy burners
Kelly Kettle
Vacuum flasks and thermal mugs
Cobb
Gas single burner suitcase hob + camping kettle
Sugar, pasta, rice, couscous, coffee, dried coffee whitener.
Soap, shampoo, toothpaste, multiple toothbrushes, all toiletries.
Wind up torches
Batteries
Supply of properly dry twigs that I have collected for the kelly kettle.
Matches
Lighters
Firesteel
Cotton wool, vaseline, and newspaper to get fire started.
First aid kit.
Warm clothes
Duvets
Hot water bottles
Outdoor clothes and boots
Spare mobile phone, kept charged
A lot of loo roll.
Bucket and plastic bags to use as makeshift loo.
Washing powder
Bleach
Homemade stove made from ikea cutlery basket and two tent pegs.
Microfibre towels

I need to get;
More water
More cash! (don't we all?)
More tinned food. I am struggling with storage space.
Powdered milk (been trying to get more of this for ages but everywhere seems to have stopped selling it)
More coffee
Extra gas canisters for gas hob
Better torches
Headtorch
Wind up radio
Plunger, to do laundry with

I would really like to get;
Hozelock porta shower. I would heat the water for this with my kelly kettle and use it in my actual shower if the drainage was still functioning. I also would like to get a shallow, wide tubtrug that I could use in place of the shower tray if necessary.

Wringer, for laundry. Or a giant commercial salad spinner, which is a more easily available alternative.

Biolite stove. Been looking at these and since somebody mentioned them on the other thread. I used my KK yesterday on the beach and it was a nightmare trying to keep it lit. I was just making hot drinks for the children and toasting marshmallows but it would have been a real faff doing that several times a day. I used to be a dab hand with it but I have had it years and I am fancying the biolite. I don't think it looks as efficient in terms of fuel use but it looks easier for constant repeated use. I need something that burns wood, as it is easy for me to source.

Lime, for loo purposes over a longer period.

Zebra billy cans

Dehydrated meals.

Wonderbag cooking bag.

Waterbob, to store water in the bath.

Katadyn pocket water filter.

Katadyn desalinator.

A small firepit/bowl thingy.

My flat is all electric which is a great worry for me. I dream of wood burning stoves. Last year we couldn't afford to put the crappy electric heaters on anyway and froze all winter so I don't suppose it will be much worse if we don't have any power. We went to bed at 7pm every night with 2 hot water bottles each.

I try to keep my car topped up with petrol. This is one of the best aspects of having split up with my ex. He would regularly return my car to me right down on the red mark and I would hop in the next morning to discover I HAD to get fuel before going anywhere. He laughed at me for wanting to make sure we always had half a tank. I have no outside space to store a spare can of fuel so it is especially important for me to always have enough.

I know this sounds a bit mad given all the above but I am trying to embrace minimalism. I have very limited space and I would like to cut down on the amount of stuff I have. I am working on reducing all of our wardrobes to about a quarter of what we have currently. I have a freestanding wardrobe which I would like to empty and store most of our preps in. It is hard because I don't want people to know I am prepping. For this reason I conceal most of the prepping from the children as they are not old enough to understand why I don't want them talking about it. They know we like the outdoor life and making fires etc, and I've left it at that.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Thu 22-Oct-15 18:42:28

Adding:-

Cat litter and strong plastic bin bags.

No water: empty your toilet of the water. Line with bin bag. Poo in loo-no peeing if you have a garden, do it there-put a little cat litter on top ready for the next person.

TheSlightlyEmbarrassedPrepper Thu 22-Oct-15 18:52:57

Another thing I do which is half prepping, half laziness, is to always keep on top of my laundry. If I only did washing on a Monday and the power went off on Sunday night I would have to survive the apocalypse in unwashed socks. I am not great at ironing stuff and putting it away but there is never more than a day's worth of clothing in our laundry basket.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Thu 22-Oct-15 18:58:24

Yes I do that EmbarrassedPrepper keep on top of laundry and ironing in case of a.....in case I need to!

TheSlightlyEmbarrassedPrepper Thu 22-Oct-15 19:23:53

Remembering a few things I didn't list above

Knives
Washing line (despite not having anywhere to hang it)
Cleaning products
Disposable gloves

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:11:35

My original list was my OFRS list but I have other things in the stockpile for bugging in. Mainly a lot of food but also things like walkie talkies (which would come with us but live out of the bag so that they're always charged). Binoculars would also be handy but again they live out of the OFRS because we use them.

There's a list floating around on the internet somewhere about the things that would disappear first in the event of a disaster (compiled I think from someone who lived through the war in Bosnia). Top of the list was a chemical toilet.

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:13:15

Oh and tin openers. I have three in the stockpile!!

TheSlightlyEmbarrassedPrepper Thu 22-Oct-15 20:24:50

Yes, tin openers! I also have multiples. I have the ones where you don't have to turn a handle, it is all one solid piece with no moving parts, and you just move it up and down yourself. I don't have much luck with normal tin openers.

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:30:10

There's a cool video from a pair of Russian guys on youtube showing you how to open a tin in seconds without a tin opener.

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:34:11

Its pretty easy to open a tine with a knife and it doesn't need to be very sharp (not a dinner/butter knife though)
Just stand I point down on the top and use the butt of your palm to knock it in. Then just use it to cut around the top of the tin.
I didn't own a tin opener for yrs as a student.

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:35:29

Once its in tilt it back and use the blade to cut upwards into the metal and then move it on a bit. It works in the opp way tona solid opener.

Toomuch2young Thu 22-Oct-15 20:41:16

Seriously?? People do this?! The only time I have heard of this is with hordes of people in the usa having underground shelters built in their houses and stockpiling a years worth of food!
Is this something we should all be doing or is this a joke. Confused.

TheSlightlyEmbarrassedPrepper Thu 22-Oct-15 20:42:33

I'm scared to try opening a tin with a knife. I have already wrecked one expensive knife attempting sabrage with a champagne bottle. It works perfectly every time but nobody ever told me you are meant to use the blunt side of the blade. In a SHTF scenario I don't want to damage any of my good knives.

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:46:05

It depends toomuch. Certainly its something you should consider.

You might take the view that you'd never want to bother and life will be fine - which it might.

But then there could be a major power outage leaving us all without food, water, heat, ability to access fuel or cash etc. If that happened for three months could you cope? Nothing would work, shops wouldn't be open or have anything in stock, people would be fighting over food and water for their children.

I'm not sure that being around in the event of something permanent and horrific would be what many of us would want but what if it was short term panic and breakdown of society followed by a return to semi normality after a few months? I'd certainly want to try very hard to get my family through that.

So yes, people really do think about these things smile

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:47:12

plus if you use a knife you could cut yourself and risk it getting infected.

The Russian guys do it by rubbing the tin on concrete. The seal goes very quickly and it just pops open.

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:47:22

Yh blunt side for beer and champagne or any hard surface.

Yh some do it a little some alot a few extra tins of food for a power cut or job loss is never a bad thing I think.

winchester1 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:49:56

Always face the blade away from you and hold the tin with your elbow - of course! [I'm a loon - icon]

Toomuch2young Thu 22-Oct-15 20:50:52

Thanks for explaining atticus it is certainly something to think about.

atticusclaw2 Thu 22-Oct-15 20:51:47

I might let DH try that one grin. He'd be useless anyway unless a lifetime supply of his gout medication dropped out of the sky

KatherineMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 02-Nov-15 10:57:06

We are moving this over to our brand new Preppers topic in a mo grin <rubs hands>

ISpidersmanYouMeanPirate Mon 02-Nov-15 11:06:13

Placemarking to get ideas!

I'm actually beginning to think I need to have a bugging in place for everything. At the moment I have a bug out bag, then everything else (candles, matches, food, water) is just stored wherever.

Problem is I'm in a flat....! And space is not readily available. Plus I need it to be away from tiny curious fingers.

Any spare space we have atm is gradually being filled with Christmas presents (again, I consider it to be prepping smile )

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