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Giving your baby a great IQ

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Genevieve123 · 15/05/2010 20:11

Thought I would share this with anybody who is interested.

13 years ago, I read in the Daily Mail that if you eat oily fish (take Omega-3) along with Evening Primrose supplements each day during the last three months of pregnancy, this would give the baby a higher IQ.

As I was at that stage in my second pregnancy, I tried this out. My daughter is now 13 and is on the gifted and talented register. She has got a brilliant memory, almost photographic when memorising pages of information and finds school really easy, having to make very little effort to achieve mostly A grades in everything.

I spent the last six weeks of my pregnancy with my parents with both my first born son and my daughter. My parents would put out lunch of tinned sardines and mackerel every day. I ate these and took my Evening Primrose oil - although only with my daughter as I had not read about the importance of taking the supplement with my son. Both my son and daughter are very bright but my daughter has the edge on my son.

When I had my third child, a boy, I forgot to eat fish and take Evening Primrose oil, as I just seemed to be eating on the run, with looking after two children whilst dad worked away. I can see the difference in my youngest as he finds it a struggle to keep up with everything.

Both my first son and daughter were speaking fluently by the age of two. As I was a new mum I never thought anything of it, but everybody else seemed to think they'd "been here before".

I mentioned to my two nieces that it might be a good idea to eat fish for the last three months of pregnancy or take a supplement, but they preferred to take the advice of their health professionals who advised no fish, no soft cheese and no soft eggs. I agreed with the cheese and eggs, but was shocked to hear they were not allowed to eat fish, as the last three months of pregnancy is when the brain is growing and needs that kind of nutrition. I know the belief is that the seas are polluted with mercury etc, but supplements should be advised otherwise (or organic Flax see oil which is naturally rich in Omega 3).

My first niece's daughter did not start speaking until she was four and is behind at school at the age of 7. My second niece's daughter is almost four and is just past the babbling stage, although both mum and dad are bright and grandparents fully involved.

So, maybe it was just luck, but I feel that eating the fish and taking the Evening Primrose oil for the last three months of pregnancy as suggested in the Daily Mail did make a difference to my daughter's IQ.

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TotalChaos · 15/05/2010 20:18

what a piece of work you are, feeling all smug that your kids don't have language delay because you took omega supplements. btw IQ can be tested separately from language skills, your niece's kids may well have sky high IQs....

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TheArmadillo · 15/05/2010 20:19

Firstly this reads like an advert for the daily mail.

Secondly with such a small sample (your 3 children and your nieces' 2 daughters) is hardly reliable evidence (especially as you can't rule out genetics or environment in playing a part).

Thirdly I find it hard to believe that any professional would recommend no fish - the NHS site advises

-# Don't eat more than two portions of oily fish a week (for example, mackerel, trout or fresh tuna), or more than four cans of tuna (around 140g per can). These contain high levels of mercury, which can harm your baby's developing nervous system.

Don't eat marlin, shark or swordfish. These can contain high levels of mercury, which can damage your baby's developing nervous system.

Don't eat raw shellfish, as they can contain bacteria and viruses that can cause food poisoning.


from here

Which is definately more than none.

Fourthly its worth reading Ben Goldacre (bad science column in the guardian, plus the books he's published) on the scam that is fish oils. Oh, and the daily mail's appalling record on reporting science stories.

Um in conclusion - bollocks to what you've written.

HTH
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coppertop · 15/05/2010 20:22

This has to be a wind-up.

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zapostrophe · 15/05/2010 20:23

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AndieWalsh · 15/05/2010 20:23

What an ill considered post.

My DS has an exceptionally high IQ (he is on the 99th centile for children of his age in both verbal and non-verbal reasoning) and is an all-round 'brain box', on the G&T register blah blah. He is also autistic.

High IQ is not the be all and end all. If you don't realise that at this stage in your life, you must be pretty stupid.

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Greensleeves · 15/05/2010 20:23

wankshaft

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Lulumaam · 15/05/2010 20:26

i think it was luck

i thikn you are incredibly insensitive and have proved that intelligence, sensitivity and tact can't really be measured with points.. you can have a v v high IQ and still be very insensitive

my son is very intelligent, but dyslexic, my dd is also bright as a button and did not speak until 2.5

i shall now flagellate myself for not eating sardines daily

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MarineIguana · 15/05/2010 20:29

You do talk as if your child having a fantastically high IQ is the be-all and end-all of parental achievement. In fact it can often make children miserable when they are prodigious - it certainly isn't innately linked to happiness or success - and it's also good to try to be sensitive on here where you will encounter many parents of wonderful, much-loved children with special needs or learning difficulties (that have nothing to do with their mother's diet in pregnancy).

As for no fish in pregnancy - my arse! I have just had my second, in the UK (where I'm guessing you are as a mail reader?) and the advice is a little more complex than that - some types of fish are problematic but other fish is definitely not banned and nor are many kinds of soft cheese. Perhaps your nieces just wanted you to butt out?

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TheStraitsofWTF · 15/05/2010 20:30

Oh, here was me thinking that Baby Brains was in fact a biography.

Clearly all that fish didn't help your brain realise the Daily Mail is a useless rag.

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ThreadKillerQueen · 15/05/2010 21:28
Biscuit
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NoahAndTheWhale · 15/05/2010 21:40

If you are a real person which I doubt, you are basically horrible.

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MarineIguana · 15/05/2010 21:45

OTOH if you are some kind of viral marketing effort by the Daily Mail, lordy have you got your demographic wrong.

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Meglet · 15/05/2010 21:54

Are you on work experience at the DM? I cannot believe anyone with any experience / intelligence would have posted that.

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Catz · 15/05/2010 21:54

ooh - I'm veggie, have been for 18 yrs and can't recall the last time anything fish related passed my lips. My DD (now 2) started speaking (clearly enough that strangers could understand her) at 9 months and was speaking in sentences by 15 months. This is a 100% success rate so I think being veggie clearly creates early talkers...

... will go and write book and make millions on my 'IQ diet' guru status...

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Catz · 15/05/2010 22:09

not seriously suggesting that DD has a high IQ BTW - no idea, she is 2 - or that talking and IQ related.

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Shaz10 · 15/05/2010 22:11

www.badscience.net/2006/09/the-trial-that-ate-itself/

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Thediaryofanobody · 15/05/2010 22:14

What you selling, fish oil?
I aimed to give my babies unconditional love and health.
You are pretty horrid for being gleeful over your poor nieces problems, I hope your more understanding and less braggy in real life.

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Portofino · 15/05/2010 22:22

Well I lived off cake and king prawn balls and had plenty of oysters and wine when I was pg. My dd's verbal reasoning skills are second to none. At six, I am already dreading the teenage years....

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lou031205 · 15/05/2010 23:20

What on earth did I do wrong, then OP? DD1 has a brain malformation, yet I followed all nutritional advice for pregnancy to the letter.

This is one of those threads, which has variations, but boils down to "I was generally responsible, so I'll give myself the credit, but actually I just got lucky."

Like the brilliant sleepers whose parents congratulate themselves on setting a good routine; the brilliant eaters whose parents congratulate themselves on providing a varied diet - it is all a combination of genes, personlities, environment and well, luck, really.

Enjoy yourself.

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herjazz · 15/05/2010 23:52

I broke 15 yrs of vegetarianism to take some revolting fish oil capsules when pregnant with dd. Had read some simlar guff to you. And would you adam and eve it - she's profoundly disabled! Has the cognitive abilities of a 6-8 month old alas with less communication skills

maybe they weren't the right brand, eh?

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MumNWLondon · 16/05/2010 09:30

OP I think it was luck not anything else! What an offensive post...

FYIW I took cerebrum (vegetarian DHA from healthspan) with DS and not DD, and they are both spoke fluently by 2. Who cares - not sure if it does make a difference (which I am not sure about) and if it did it would be a very marginal one.

re: the flaxseed oil well thats totally flawed advice anyway as it doesn't contain much DHA.

re: the fish - its not NHS advice to eat no oily fish, so thats ignorance there.

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ramade · 25/06/2010 11:41

You're all just a tiny bit harsh on Genevieve123! Don't think she was trying to cause all of this heated offence! Yes she's a Daily Mail reader (oh dear)and it makes me laugh to think she has been eyeballing her nieces for sighns of intelligence!, but give her a break she was trying to give what she believed was a tip

Genevieve123. Worry less about that stuff because getting caught uo in all of that can make you forget to have fun with them. Relax.

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BabyValentine · 25/06/2010 11:45

Lunatic. Complete lunatic.

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trilliAnasTra · 25/06/2010 11:51

I am shocked that your nieces preferred to listen to health professionals rather than your smug advice, which based only on anecdotal evidence.

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beanlet · 25/06/2010 13:38

FFS -- who bumped this? It's old old old, and it's very very wrong.

Ben Goldacre

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