DH and I am heading to champagne for a long weekend with a group of friends when I will be 32 weeks pregnant. Each of the evenings we are having lovely french meals which invariably will include a cheese course ... knowing the french most will be unpasturised .. so here is my dillema - do I avoid it like the plague or do I risk it? .. what have others done ... in my heart of hearts i know the answer - but the greedy cheese pig in me cant help wondering - will a little unpasturised cheese matter all that much? ... thoughts welcome
Listeria is one of the few (very few) bugs that can actually make it across the placenta. Most of the other food advice (runny eggs, shellfish etc) are because other food poisoning bacteria like salmonella will make you feel like crap, but listeria can actually harm the baby.
Couldn't agree more with MrsBadger. You are much more susceptible to listeria when pregnant and it can do very nasty things to the baby. I recently had food poisoning from a tuna pizza (from a well-respected Italian restaurant) of all things, and know that you definitely feel more rubbish with normal food poisoning when pregnant, but I knew that the baby was OK throughout my frequent visits to the toilet! Listeria is another matter altogether though, so I really wouldn't take the chance. Having said that, I know that Coeur de Lion's camembert is pasteurised, but it is still a soft mould-ripened cheese so you still should steer clear... Have extra pudding instead!
listeria needs moisture and low acidity to grow, so old, harder cheeses which have a low moisture content and higher acidity (even if made from unpasteurised milk) are fine too as well as the processed crap we're "allowed" to eat. Also hot cooked cheese is fine, so bring on the deep-fried brie.
Does anyone happen to know if you're supposed to avoid mould-ripened cheeses while breastfeeding as well?
I have resisted the brie while preggers (am coming up for 20 weeks) but had been planning a lovely toasted ciabatta with brie, red onion marmelade and a smidge of cranberry sauce (can you tell I've been dreaming about it?! ) until I suddenly thought ooh, what if you're not allowed brie when breastfeeding as well.....
I took a long weekend trip to Paris during my 2nd tri. Decided not to worry about the cheese... or the chocolate mousse
I think with the odds of listeria poisoning so low, one weekend won't hurt. If it's served in a restaurant I imagine the odds are even lower as they'll take extra precautions against food poisoning that ordinary people in their kitchens wouldn't.
It just comes down to your personal comfort with the level of risk involved.
we went to paris when i was about 14 weeks in may, for our 10 year anniversary, and i had to miss out on all the lovely cheese and oysters and other yummy food. I had a couple of glasses of wine whilst we were there, but that was it. i am still really missing it all now, but once DC has arrived i am going to eat a mountain of cheese, pate, rare steak and oysters...