Reassure me about your fading of symtoms at 7weeks and still having sucessful pregnancies.

[Thandeka]

I know this is a topic that comes up time and time again in the pregnancy topic but am after some specific reassurance as for me this means bad things.

History. Last pregnancy ended in MMC at 10weeks +1 and symtoms faded at 7weeks which was a clue . Got pregnant straight after (no period in between) and am now 8weeks - the symtoms this time round have been so much more severe- constant nausea and vomiting daily or alternate days (last pregnancy no vomiting at all). So I was hoping the severity of symtoms meant this time it might be a keeper. Have had scan at 7weeks (but was a tiny bit small for my dates but the lovely mumsnetters reassured me is still probably fine) but since the scan my symptoms have faded. Have been sick a couple of times but feel soooooooo much better than I did last week and this is really worrying me as 7weeks was when last symtoms faded (after a viable pregnancy scan too) so am worried. I still feel a bit nauseous and I am sleeping all the time so symtoms are still kind of there just not as bad as what they were so in a way I should be thankful I don't quite feel as wretched as I did but the wretchedness made me feel better if you see what I mean?

Anyhow I have another scan booked in for 7th July (when I will be almost 10 weeks and will be completely terrified) - not really an option to get an earlier scan as currently in somerset staying with the in laws- so was hoping you lovely mumsnetters could regale me with stories of how your symtoms dissappeared at 7ish weeks and ALL was fine.

Ta muchly.
Thandeka

P.S as computer use is scarce in this house I may not be able to get back on til tommorrow or even monday so please don't hate me for being quiet!

[flyingcloud]

Oh bump -

I know we had this discussion when mine faded, and you reassured me, I moved from everything tweaking to nothing to rabid nausea - but there was nothing for about five days.

If it's any consolation I do have friends who said the sickness only lasted a couple of weeks for them (gggrrrr). You are still feeling nauseous and tired - that's got to mean something?

I wish I could say something to take away your worries - is there any chance you a) relaxed a bit after MNers reassured you re bean size and b) relaxed more being away from home thus making the sickness less severe? Are the in-laws pampering you? I know nothing about this scientifically, but we're going away this weekend and the very idea of being away from home is making me feel a smidgen better. Being relaxed definitely helps.

Hopefully someone will have more useful and concise information than me. xx

[MrsHappy]

Thandeka- I am sure my symptoms came and went. And just when I started to get worried back they came with a vengeance.

I reckon that with me my hormone levels were increasing making me feel crap, then my body got used to it (felt better) and then they rose again. That's what it seemed like anyway.

Fingers crossed for you.

[PracticalCat]

Thandeka, I know how scary it is. Two years ago I had a mmc at 9 weeks, had a D&C, and then exactly 6 weeks later we conceived DS who is now 13 months and gorgeous.

I also had much stronger symptoms with the second pregnancy. Intense nausea from 6 weeks which suddenly disappeared at 7.5 weeks. I was so paranoid when I stopped feeling awful - absolutely miserable. Then, luckily, at 9 weeks, I began puking like something from a bad horror movie. So, a fairly similar history and a wonderful outcome. I hope yours is too.

Did you get a heartbeat at your scan? Apparently the odds increase significantly after the heartbeat is seen.

Looks like my neurosis begins again as I've just had a faint bfp. Weed on 7 sticks in three days!

[JetLi]

In early pregnancy I regularly had 3 day stretches with zero symptoms, which were utterly terrifying and used to paralyse me with fear. Then it would all come back and make me feel like I'd been hit by a bus. This would leave me kicking myself for not getting a few jobs under my belt when the going was good (such as ironing 2 or 3 work outfits or making a bit of something for the freezer). It's horrible and I can really empathise with you wanting to throw up all the time .
I think mrshappy has it right - you just get used to a certain hormone level and this gives you a wee bit of respite, and then there'll be some massive surge and you'll be rough as the proverbial bears arse again.

[JetLi]

Practical is also right - if you see a heartbeat before 8 weeks, then you'll achieve a healthy pregnancy and therefore a baby in 97% of cases. HTH.

[flyingcloud]

Oh - is 97% a real figure - where did you get this from?

[Thandeka]

Thanks guys that helps- knew I could rely on mumsnet! I had a puking episode this morning but nothing came up as stomach empty but that made me feel "better" in fact despite having a two day respite from the vomit I am feeling decidedly grim today which is great as it is the day I was supposed to be sneaking into Glasto for the rest of the weekend- (staying in a caravan so shouldn't be so bad and first thing in my rucksack is my sickbowl!).

I saw a heartbeat at scan at 7 weeks but that doesn't reassure me yet as saw heartbeat in last pregnancy at 6w+3 and still lost it. The stats are according to the miscarriage association:

Research has shown that if you see a heartbeat at 6 weeks of pregnancy, the chances of the pregnancy continuing are 78%. A heartbeat at 8 weeks increases the chance of a continuing pregnancy to 98% and at 10 weeks to 99.4%

www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/ma2006/information/ultrasound.htm

[flyingcloud]

Thanks Thandeka - yay for sickness!!

Are you going to Glasto? If so, enjoy!

[Thandeka]

Yup am sneaking in which is a bit naughty of me since signed off sick but it will be such a waste of £185 if I don't go....

Am borrowing all my step father in laws waterproofs- including a chic pair of waterproof dungarees- the ultimate in glamorous maternity wear I feel!

[JetLi]

Oh thandeka - so glad about the puking
Have a great time at Glasto

[jardins]

Hello Thandeka et al, I'm worried today as, at almost 10 weeks (with successful scan at the beginning of the week) I have had some brown thick discharge (sorry tmi) when I wiped, once, so far. Also my nausea has diminished since yesterday evening although this has already happened with this pregnancy. My husband won't be back until late Saturday evening, I need to pick up my children from school and take they to various appointments. I CERTAINLY don't want to go back to the hospital where I found out 3 months ago I had miscarried: the doctor was horrible.

I'm at a loss. We're moving in just over a week, all week-end we have social engagements and I just can't bear to have to brave all this alone (until my husband returns) with the kids.

I could call my doctor in Paris who I saw on Monday but I suspect he will say that it can be totally normal and just to keep a look out for further signs. There's nothing he can do at a distance, is there?

[flyingcloud]

Jardins - did you have an internal scan? Any chance it's old blood from cervical erosion? I had some after my internal scan (about two/three days after though).

[jardins]

Dear FlyingCloud I had my internal scan four days ago. I was wondering if it could be that.... What exactly happened to you? What I mean is, what sort of spotting/discharge did you have? And how many weeks pregnant were you? I'm sure you can understand my fear... I'm grateful for your answer.

[flyingcloud]

I was 6+5 at my internal scan. I had exactly what you describe. It was rather thicker than the actual brown spotting which sent me for the scan in the first place. Of course I understand your fear! I just hope to reassure you a little bit.

[jardins]

yep, same here: mine (and this really is tmi) was a small glob of browny yellow mucus.

I think what I'm going to do is to monitor things and if my nausea does not kick in with a vengeance and/or I get my spotting I will go on Monday to the hospital. I would rather go for two days of fretting and then go to the hospital with my husband than go there alone....

What do you think? I know you can't think for me but it helps to have this contact with you whilst I figure things out.

[flyingcloud]

I'm not great at braving social events when I'm feeling worried like you are - I was in a similar situation when I had my first spotting. I went to dinner with friends and sat there glumly all evening (and went to the loo about five times as well, rather embarrassing, I hope they can forgive me when I tell them the news about being pg) I would call your doctor in Paris if you can to just to have some contact with a medical professional.

Fingers crossed for you. I think you should be fine, but I really don't know enough to be able to give you good advice.

[PracticalCat]

Thandeka, so glad to hear that you puked. Hope you're feeling suitably lousy

[hobnob57]

Thandeka so happy to see you on Pregnancy threads - I remember you from the MC boards (I may have been 'banjaxed' then ).

I'm now happily pg at 21 weeks, but I was very very skeptical about everything until 16 weeks until I heard the heartbeat (seemed to be a milestone for me, not sure why). I had raging MS with my DD until 17 weeks. This time around, I had one weekend of stuck-to-the-sofa-please-don't-make-cooking-smells-or-make-me-move nausea at 6 wks which seemed to disappear rapidly over the next week. To the point where I phoned the midwife on the Thursday and she said that unless I was bleeding or in pain I just had to wait and see if I was miscarrying. I dissolved. I just couldn't bear the idea of another dead baby inside me without knowing about it. I luckily had managed to speak to one of those really sympathetic midwives: she phoned me back and had managed to book me in for a scan the next day which showed a heartbeat and normal looking shaped fluid sac.

So, a 7wk scan and I was reassured for now, but still paranoid (I'd spent too long reading MC threads). Waiting for my 13 week scan was torture, but my MS symptoms came back which was some comfort. However, it was never as bad as with DD which was always a source of worry. After 7 weeks I still felt sick, but without the constant swaying nausea. As long as I snacked through the morning, had a good lunch by 12 and tried a small dinner by 5:30 I did pretty well. Although I think I was actually physically sick more often than with DD I managed to eat more and so feel better.

13 week scan was fine - but as I waid, I still wasn't convinced until 16 weeks and feeling regular movements.

Those early weeks go so slowly. Keep busy and hang on in there. You are most probably fine, but I know just how useless it can be to hear that without concrete proof! I've got fingers and toes crossed for you.

[Thandeka]

Hi all.
Just got back from Glasto this morning- had a great time but I have never been so glad to see a flushing toilet or a bath in my life! I had NO sickness the whole weekend I was there- I was completely fine- did lots of walking about and although I was in bed by 11 most nights (crap glasto fan me!) I felt completely NOT pregnant (had two mini retches and that was it- even the toilet small didnt have me heaving). All this made me decide that the emby had had it again and was all set to phone midwife today to arrange a scan sooner so I could get it all over and done with medically managed stuff sooner rather than wait until next tues for my next scan. fast forward to 20 mins ago when I just threw up all my toast and juice (note to self MANGO juice never agrees with me- even when not pregnant I dislike it!) so now am quietly hopeful again. Perhaps being out in the "fresh" (apart from the chemical toilets and stale cider and sweat smell) air and the lots of walking about helped rid me of the nausea temporalily. Anyhow this was proper sick (the sick I reported before was mini sick so I wasn't really counting it.) It does mean that in last week and a half I have only been sick 4 times which is a lot less than daily as it was for a little bit (or alternate days for a bit). but heck the fact I am still being sick hopefully means something okay. Its a week tommorrow until my scan and I am knicker checking like a demon- which was exceptionally difficult in long drop toilets with limited loo roll!

Anyhow that's enough about me- Jardins how are you doing? (sorry for the delayed response- no internet access at Glasto!) I hope no more brownish bleeding for you- not because I think it is a portender of doom (I agree with flyingcloud is propably from scan) but because I know what a panic such a discovery can cause.

Hi to Hobnob57 and flyingcloud and evryone.

Let the puking continue and our beans continue to grow!
xxx