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Just how painful can 'ligament' pain get in late preg?

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Dragonhart Wed 16-Jul-08 10:31:41

Preg with no 3 and I am 34wks now. I am in alot of pain when walking, then if I have been doing a lot (ds nearly 3 and dd 18mo so not much choice about that!), then sit down for longer than about 5 mins, when I get up it is really painful to walk.

Night time is the worst and rolling over takes an age and often involves tears sad.

The pain is worst between my pubic bones but is also in my hips and in my lower back.

Had midwife appt and she said it didnt sound like spd as I got it when I had been resting and you only get spd when you have been on your feet a long time and there is pressure from the babies head. She also said that I wouldnt get it at night. I did tell her that I had it all the time but she just focused on the night and after resting pain. Only thing she said was to take paracetamol, which is not much use.

I was wondering just how bad the pain can get from what she called ligament pain. It feels too bad to just be a case of 'tough luck, you are preg, deal with it' to me.

In my previous preg I have had aches and pains but nothing that stops me dead in my tracks or makes me cry. WOuld appreciate anyone elses experiences.

Dragonhart Wed 16-Jul-08 10:34:32

Sorry, dd pulled the cable out of my laptop when I was sending message! This is what I said;

Preg with no 3 and I am 34wks now. I am in alot of pain when walking, then if I have been doing a lot (ds nearly 3 and dd 18mo so not much choice about that!), then sit down for longer than about 5 mins, when I get up it is really painful to walk.

Night time is the worst and rolling over takes an age and often involves tears sad.

The pain is worst between my pubic bones but is also in my hips and in my lower back.

Had midwife appt and she said it didnt sound like spd as I got it when I had been resting and you only get spd when you have been on your feet a long time and there is pressure from the babies head. She also said that I wouldnt get it at night. I did tell her that I had it all the time but she just focused on the night and after resting pain. Only thing she said was to take paracetamol, which is not much use.

I was wondering just how bad the pain can get from what she called ligament pain. It feels too bad to just be a case of 'tough luck, you are preg, deal with it' to me.

In my previous preg I have had aches and pains but nothing that stops me dead in my tracks or makes me cry. WOuld appreciate anyone elses experiences.

Dragonhart Wed 16-Jul-08 10:42:04

That is all very confusing! I couldnt see the message before so thought it hadn't posted! blush. Also have managed to post it twice hmm

iloverosycheeks Wed 16-Jul-08 11:03:43

I experienced this in late pregnancy, in fact strangers in the street would ask me if I was in labour as I was walking so slowly and so obviously in agony. the Doctor was of no help, I ended up in tears in a chemist pleading with them to give me something for the pain but there was nothing pregnant women were allowed. The only thing that helped me was massage, so you could try that After about 2 weeks it did get better! I hope it does for you too...

smilesattheweekend Wed 16-Jul-08 11:27:04

Hi Dragonhart.

I have just been searching for info on SPD and have looked on lots of sites. I am 23 weeks with my second pg and am in lots of pain (it feels like someone has taken a baseball bat and hit me in the ladybits IYKWIM) and this is after being sat at my desk for a little while, when I stand up I can hardly walk.The sites I have looked at say "don't let your midwife or doctor fob you off - insist on a referral to a women's specialist Physio". I have made an appointment to see my GP tomorrow morning and intend on getting her to take me seriously. I can't carry on like this, I feel like crying when moving around, especially stairs, walking and getting in and out of the car. I am not so bad in the morning so far, but dread it getting even worse. When I get off the tram in the evening I look like an old woman!

Good luck.

X

Smiles

chocbutton Wed 16-Jul-08 11:48:50

really feel for you with this as I had exactly what you are describing - nightime was dreadful and reduced me to tears on many occasions, so much so that I had to get DH to take a days carers leave once I was in that much pain. I felt I didn't sleep properly for the last 4 months due to the pain.
I found a walking stick helped me (especially when getting up in the night to wee!) and I know people who have been given crutches which also helps.
I was referred by midwife to physio at the hospital and they fitted me with a support belt - basically a huge elastic belt. Helped a little bit but not that much to be honest as you could only wear it whilst standing up as otherwise it cut into your legs IYSWIM.
I had to grin and bear it I'm afraid which I know isn't what you wanted to hear, but it did improve once DS arrived! I still suffer a bit but I believe most people feel instant relief after birth.
Sorry this isn't more positive, but just wanted to share this so you all know you are not alone - your descriptions of the pain are very accurate BTW so make sure the GP/midwife refers you asap. I wish I had done this sooner.

chocbutton Wed 16-Jul-08 11:49:11

Aqua natal classes (or just normal swimming) also helped a bit as took pressure off my poor pelvis!

chandellina Wed 16-Jul-08 13:34:07

Hi Dragonhart, your symptoms sound very similar to mine, but my midwife immediately said it must be SPD.
I also feel it acutely after i've been sitting and get up to walk, and in the night whilst trying to sleep.
I am 37 weeks now. It reached its crisis point last week, before I knew what it was and started taking measures to deal with it.
I am still in some pain walking this week, etc. but it has really helped to:
try to keep my knees together at all times basically.
Particularly keep your knees together and be very gentle and try not to twist your body when you are getting in and out of bed, or rolling over in the night.
Don't sit crosslegged or anything like that, even if it feels comfortable.
When sitting down or standing up from sitting, make sure your nose it out over your knees (move your upper body forward). Also put your weight on both legs whenever standing up or sitting down.
I tried a support belt someone lent me but it didn't help at all.
My pain is worst in my upper thighs/buttocks, but also moves into my lower bump and lower back.
I'm meant to see a physio but god knows when that will get sorted. My midwife advised paracetemol and said i coudl also get a prescription for codeine. I hate popping pills though so haven't.
i hope these little bits of advice might help you. Apparently sprawling your legs and letting your bones click around really aggravates the problem.

Dragonhart Wed 16-Jul-08 18:24:20

Thanks so much to everyone for the advice. I will definatly go back and see my gp and tell them the symptoms to see about getting refered. Even if it makes no difference, at least I will feel like I am getting some help and support!

Oh the joys of pregnancy! And to think I used to want 4 hmm

chocbutton Fri 18-Jul-08 13:32:44

Just wanted to add that I went to see a chiropractor today due to some back pain, and mentioned I'd had bad SPD (which still lingers a bit even now) - she said that she has treated many pregnant women who have turned up in tears with the pain, and she can help by stabilising the pelvis. No idea if this is true/works for everyone etc etc but may be worth looking into?? I certainly would have tried anything when I was suffering so badly, and as this is drug free may be a solution. If you are interested, perhaps try and get someone to recommend someone they have been to first. Hope this helps x

springerspaniel Fri 18-Jul-08 13:37:03

Just wanted to add also, my hip pain was the same as yours (turning over in bed, etc) but nowhere near as painful.

I mentioned it to my MW and she said that there was definitely no need to suffer and there was a ante-natal physio who could help me.

Just sounds like your MW was a bit shit.

Dragonhart Fri 18-Jul-08 18:38:25

She was rubbish, and after I cried when she said that is didnt sound like spd and there was nothing she could do, she just totally ignored the fact I was crying and started filling in my file. Then after all that when she had checked the hearbeat, she left me to get off the table myself even though I was holding 18mo dd and trying to swing off the table while keeping my legs together!

Got a referal from my doctor now, so just a case of waiting. DH went out and bought us a new mattress that was on offer, and last night I slept better. It was still agony to turn over, but as I was sleeping better, I had to do it less iyswim.

Thanks for all the advice. It really is helping. SO good to come on here and ask when I was sure the midwife was fobbing me off.

Thankyouandgoodnight Fri 18-Jul-08 20:21:04

Hi there - I have this too and SO sympathise - it's uytterly miserable and I'm only on PG #2. I wanted 3 but DH has completely gone off the idea now

Without examining you, it sounds like you have a combination of SPD and general ligament strain. When pregnant, the hormone 'relaxin' makes all ligaments a bit longer and more stretchy if you like and you end up with all the joints in the body being looser. We feel it more in the hips and pelvis (front back and underneath and everywhere else!) because that's the area that is bearing the brunt of the weight (or your body in general and all the baby stuff).

So - as it is difficult to do specific exercise to strengthen the joints, you will find that osteopaths and chiropracters that are specifically comfortable in treating to stabalise the pelvis will help alot at best or at worst, hel[ to keep things from worsening. It can be tricky because the position of the baby in the end stages of pregnancy dictates how the pelvis sits to some extent but likewise, having your pelvis in a good position can help keep baby in a good position. Either way, I really recommend you go and get some treatment!

herbietea Fri 18-Jul-08 20:26:41

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