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The Graduates of TTC after pregnancy loss thread #3 🐧🐧The Penguin Huddle 🐧🐧

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InDreamland Thu 08-Aug-19 22:55:43

New thread as the last one is nearing the max number of posts.

This is a supportive and safe space for ladies from the TTC after pregnancy loss thread who've had a BFP and now negotiating the scary rollercoaster world of pregnancy after loss.

If you weren't on the original thread though and have suffered a loss and are anxious about your new pregnancy please feel free to join the huddle 🐧

So ladies, I hope you are all here for the long haul until our 🌈 are delivered (and beyond if you fancy sticking around).

Let's pull on our positive pants and nerves of steel.

I'll start the roll call of EDD from the last thread:
@Melpops3638 - EDD 5/12/2019
@Beaglemum93 - 25 - EDD 22/12/19
@Amanda81 - 38 - EDD 27/12/19
@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue - 36 - EDD 3/01/20 but having an elective section so likely to be 27/12/19
@theAntsareMyFriends - 35 - EDD 04/02/2020
@Laney79 - 40 - EDD 6/1/2020 (but elective section so likely to be 30/12/19)
@Bluebelltulip - 29 - EDD 9/1/2020 likely induction 2 weeks earlier
@moonpeace - 37 - EDD 23/01/20
@KnitKitty- 31 - EDD 29/01/20
@Newbie21 - 38 - EDD 6/2/2020 (if c-section circa. 31/1/2020)
@Zznorth - 29 - EDD 17/02/20
@InDreamland- 39 - EDD 18/02/20
@Tinatsarina - 29 - EDD 26/02/20
@Frillyfarmer - 29 - EDD 29/02/20
@duvetcaterpillar - 34 - EDD 27/03/2020

Also tagging: @rubyroot @sadtoday21 @Catconfusion @boboelephant @Yukka @Russkispy @VenusStarr @Beaglemum93 @Squiff70 @Navy123 @Bellasblankexpression

So sorry if I've missed anyone. I've tried to include as many as I could.

InDreamland Thu 08-Aug-19 23:01:16

To refresh, about me:

Age 39, no living DC, was TTC for 5 years before first BFP May 2018.
MC (MMC) #1 - July 2018, discovered at 11+4, passed at 12+3.
MC #2 - November 2018 at just under 5w.
Currently 12+2 with 3rd pregnancy. Getting harmony results tomorrow and petrified.

InDreamland Thu 08-Aug-19 23:05:08

Sorry I missed you @fnej01 @Rmac90 @nzs2019

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@hayleyfx @Ginmonkey84 @Pancakessndwaffles

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@coconutlatte44 @Unicornsandrainbows1

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Newbie21 Fri 09-Aug-19 00:12:37

@InDreamland good luck for the harmony results tomorrow

@sadtoday21 good luck with your scan tomorrow.

I keep feeling weird tightening feeling and sort of ripples in my tummy - more ripples that flutters. I'm wondering if it's baby, kind of feels like it could be. It's probably just gas though and me wishful thinking!

Newbie21 Fri 09-Aug-19 00:17:55

Refresh on me:
38yrs, 1 DS (3yrs), TTC DC2 from Dec 2017, MMC April 2018 at 11 weeks (baby passed 8-9weeks), MC at 5 weeks in Aug 2018, MMC at 9 weeks in Nov 2018.
Now 14weeks (going by due date of 6/2/2020)
Next scan 22 Aug (private reassurance scan)
Then NHS 20 week scan is 19 Sep.

Beaglemum93 Fri 09-Aug-19 01:02:36

Thanks for the new thread @InDreamland and good luck for your harmony results tomorrow!

About me:
Age 26
2 previous losses - MMC in October 2018 where the baby died at 12+2 and a chemical pregnancy in March
Currently 20+5 with a boy!
I have a private scan on Sunday.

Navy123 Fri 09-Aug-19 03:22:28

Thanks @InDreamland

Age 29
6 previous losses - 3 in 2016/17, then DS born 2018, then 3 more since January.
Currently 5+4ish, due date April I think but haven't properly calculated yet because I don't want to jinx it!!
Next scan on 22nd August to see if it is progressing and hopefully a heartbeat.

Still don't 'feel' pg, or able to say the p word properly! Most previous mcs were early/chemicals so currently I think further along than 5 previous times.

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 05:08:59

Age: 40
First baby. Mild pcos and irregular cycles.
First pregnancy first time trying in Dec on honeymoon. Severe sickness, spotting at 10 weeks then no heartbeat on scan. Baby stopped at 6 weeks. ERPC at 12 weeks in Feb.

Straight after chemical pregnancy at just over 4 weeks in March. Never got a strong positive.
Cycles unpredictable after so we were waiting for a fertility appointment but fell pregnant on cd 32. Blazing positives and ultrasound showing 'pregnant lining' but no sac yet.
Currently 4 weeks plus 3 and the sickness is kicking in.

Does anyone else suffer with IBS? I'm really struggling with a right sided low down pain. Presumably the hormones are causing it. I've had it before so not pregnancy related. Just wondering what I can take for IBS in pregnancy? Xx

VenusStarr Fri 09-Aug-19 06:40:48

Morning. Thank you for the new thread @InDreamland 🐧

I'm 35 (nearly 36), ttc for over 18 months and had a missed miscarriage in April. Currently 4+4 with my due date in April 2020, if all is well. Having an early scan around 6 weeks at the epu. Lots of symptoms that seemed to start quite early on compared to last time.

@Catconfusion I'm not sure about ibs treatment in pregnancy, sorry. Does peppermint tea help at all?

VenusStarr Fri 09-Aug-19 06:43:19

Hope all is well with your test results @InDreamland xx

Thinking of you for your scan @sadtoday21 ❤️

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 06:53:59

Hey @VenusStarr how did you sleep? Peppermint oil has helped in the past but there's differing views on whether completely safe in pregnancy. I could try the tea. I'm feeling very nauseous today. I do sympathise with you getting early symptoms. I'm hoping it's a good sign. Xx

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 06:54:45

Good luck for your test results today @InDreamland xx

I hope the scan goes ok @sadtoday21 I'll be thinking of you! Xx

Frillyfarmer Fri 09-Aug-19 07:00:43

Thanks for the new thread.

Age 29

1 DS aged 2, started TTC Oct 18, MC at 6weeks in Jan and MC at 5+3 in May. Currently 10+6, have my second early scan on Saturday and I'm swinging between positive we've got further than previously, and terrified it's going to be a MMC.

VenusStarr Fri 09-Aug-19 07:00:56

Hey @Catconfusion, I slept better last night thank you. Was up a couple of times for the loo but managed to drop off again. I've gone off tea and coffee, which isn't a bad thing because of the caffeine. I'm mainly drinking water - feel really thirsty all the time, but getting acid / burning in my throat - ginger biscuits made that worse yesterday! Hope the peppermint tea helps xx

Bluebelltulip Fri 09-Aug-19 07:17:31

Thanks for the new thread @InDreamland, good luck for today.

Age: 29.

DD1: Jan 17.

DD2: Jan 19 Stillborn due to heart condition.

EDD: 9 Jan 20.

Got my next check on Monday, seeing a fetal medicine consultant that specialises in pregnancy after stillbirth.

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 07:19:06

That's good @VenusStarr, I can't drink tea or coffee either. The thirst is bad for me too. Constant dry mouth. Also got some weird sinus symptoms. Definitely feel like I've got hormones up to my eyeballs! Xx

fnej01 Fri 09-Aug-19 07:27:01


Thanks @InDreamland

This is me
Age : 39 (today)

1 x MMC, 2 MC, 1 CP

Diagnosed sticky blood ( APS) and high uNK cells. Now on pred, progesterone, clexane, aspirin by St Mary's

Approx 7 weeks - due late March
Scan showed heartbeat at 5+5, scan due again at 8+5 at St Mary's

Living in constant fear that this will be another MMC

Nausea, insomnia, constipation, tiredness but not sure if this is pregnancy or drug related.

Hope everyone is doing ok - thank you for those that replied regarding booking appointment @rubyroot @tina @Catconfusion I think I will book after next scan.

Bluebelltulip Fri 09-Aug-19 08:01:32

@fnej01 Happy Birthday!

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 08:02:18

Happy birthday @fnej01 💐

VenusStarr Fri 09-Aug-19 08:03:38

Happy birthday @fnej01! 🎂 🎉 Hope you have a lovely day xx

Ginmonkey84 Fri 09-Aug-19 08:04:52


Thanks @InDreamland for the new thread

Me 34 nearly 35

3 MC and 1 MMC at 12 wks in 06/07 couldn’t get pregnant again naturally after car accident that injured my husband. Male factor infertility- antisperm antibodies.

ICSI in 2012 resulted in live birth of twins, DD and DS now 6. Haven’t been on contraception in 12 years. Surprise BFP in May 19 - MC at 7+6 June 19 and amazingly currently 8+4 pregnant straight after miscarriage.

Had my EPAU scan on Monday at 7+6 everything looked great so far. Was nerve wracking as it was 8 wks to the day since I was there to confirm my miscarriage but fingers crossed we are doing good.

@fnej01 happy birthday!! 🎂

@sadtoday21 good luck for your scan today x

InDreamland Fri 09-Aug-19 08:20:33

@fnej01 happy birthday!

@sadtoday21 good luck for today's scan!

Thanks ladies. I have the last appointment so straight after work. It's going to be a long day. Convinced something has happened to baby since Tuesday. This anxiety just never ends. 12+3 today, the exact time (tonight) I passed the first pregnancy.

When is officially "the safe zone"?

InDreamland Fri 09-Aug-19 08:21:55

@Ginmonkey84 good news on the scan. Fx this develops into a happy and healthy baby 🌈

Navy123 Fri 09-Aug-19 09:00:07

@fnej01 happy birthday! Hope you have a great day!

fnej01 Fri 09-Aug-19 09:34:55

Ah thanks ladies for all the birthday wishes! X

sadtoday21 Fri 09-Aug-19 09:41:06

Thanks @InDreamland** for starting the new thread! ❤️

About me: Age 31, trying for my first baby. Previously had MMC in February at 12 weeks (hb stopped at 9+4) that ended up being a partial molar pregnancy. Had CX hospital monitoring every two weeks for three months. Then CP at 4+5 weeks.

Now I’m 8+6, EDD in March, if I make it that far.

Thanks very much for all your kind wishes for the scan today @Amanda81 @Ginmonkey84 @Catconfusion @VenusStarr @Newbie21 @Navy123 @rubyroot *@InDreamland***!!! Sorry if I missed anyone. Had a rough night sleeping and going to go with DH to the hospital in a few hours.

Best of luck for your test results today *@InDreamland***. Thinking of you xxx.

Congrats on your amazing scans @Navy123 and *@Ginmonkey84*!!

Happy birthday @fnej01!!

CodlingMoth Fri 09-Aug-19 09:45:56

Checking in.

Am exactly 1 year older than @fnej01
Hoping for DC3 (DC2 for DP)
Mmc last summer (lost at 10 and a half weeks, died at 7+3ish)
Chem at 5 and a half weeks in jan
Mc at 6 and a half weeks in march
Mc at 9 +something weeks in May (that one was not right from the start tbh)

Now 5+5 and feeling utterly vile (which is a good thing haha)

Had two chems in the 2 months before DC2 stuck so I have form. Waiting on appointment for rmc and trying to get booked in with midwives

Happy birthday fnej1!!!

Squiff70 Fri 09-Aug-19 10:07:06

Thanks for the new thread @InDreamland

Age 37
Lost twins at 19 weeks in January
Had two CPs since and now 7+1 with twins again!

Happy Birthday @fnej01, have a lovely day flowers

strawberrye Fri 09-Aug-19 10:36:30

Hi ladies, glad to read all of your good news. I'm going to hop on if that's OK? Had a bit of a break from mumsnet recently as I felt it adding to me constantly obsessing about TTC at that point. Anyway shortly after I left I got my BFP. I'm now 9+1 and had my second reassurance scan today at Coventry, saw baby measuring perfectly and with a heartbeat which was a relief. Had a scan at 6+1 and saw a heartbeat but was told I was measuring 5-6 weeks so I'm relieved things are looking right for dates.

About me:
Age 28, no living children
TTC #1 since October 2017
3 early losses before 6 weeks in January, April and November 2018
Seen by local RMC and then at Tommy's in Coventry
Diagnosed hypothyroid, on levothyroxine and progesterone pessaries

VenusStarr Fri 09-Aug-19 10:50:57

So lovely to see you back and with happy news @strawberrye ❤️ congratulations. What a relief to see a heartbeat today xx

Laney79 Fri 09-Aug-19 12:19:36

Hi all. Just saying hi. I'm pretty quiet on here at the mo, just trying to get my head around things, but I am keeping up with all your news,

As for me...I'm 40, no children yet, had two losses last year. A MMC discovered in March (discovered at a private reassurance scan at 9 weeks baby measured 6 weeks) which took months to resolve and multiple rounds of medical mgmt. then another loss discovered in September-again scan at 9 weeks but baby only grew to just over 6 weeks...another mmc.
Fast forward to now and I'm currently 18+4 with hopefully a healthy little one. Had 5 scans so far and heard the heartbeat with the midwife and consultant. Anomaly scan next week.

I think I'm starting to feel movement now...which if it is what I think it is is amazing!!!

Lovely to see some familiar names on here - congrats @strawberrye xx

Hugs to all xxx

Pancakesandwaffles Fri 09-Aug-19 12:54:21

Hi, thanks for adding me @InDreamland.

I'm 36, no D. MMC in April 2019. Currently 10+5. EDD 1st March. Had a scan as part of harmony test on tues and all looked ok. Holding out for dating scan on 21st Aug.

Am pretty quiet on here, but keeping fingers and toes crossed for everyone.

MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue Fri 09-Aug-19 12:54:24

I've had some issues with MN and was locked out! I only just got my password reset so haven't really caught up with anything properly, just checking in!

About me:
Age 36
DD aged 2.5
2 previous losses:
- MMC in July 2018. Had a scan at 7.5 weeks and saw heartbeat but baby measuring a week behind. Next scan baby had died. Had to wait for the NHS as they won't accept private scans and passed naturally at ten weeks the day before I was scheduled for surgery. Found the whole thing quite traumatic.
- Ectopic pregnancy and emergency removal of my left tube in February 2019. Found that even more traumatic.

Had one period after the ectopic and am somehow 19 weeks pregnant today with a baby boy! Veering between positive thoughts and an anxiety ridden mess!

moonpeace Fri 09-Aug-19 17:11:44

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

rubyroot Fri 09-Aug-19 17:49:36

@fnej01 I took the plunge today as rang midwives for advice and they then booked me in for end of August. They asked me if I wanted the bits posting to me and I said no. If anything happens I can always cancel the appt. They were very good though and understanding.
By that point, if I get there I'll be around 10 weeks and 5 days and will have had a ten week scan and will be awaiting harmony results.

Newbie21 Fri 09-Aug-19 18:21:10

@strawberrye lovely to see you on here.

@InDreamland I think a pregnancy is considered viable at 22-24 weeks but not sure if there is any earlier indicator of being in a safe zone - chances of MC fall week by week though. I do think though it is really important to try and enjoy being pregnant. I loved being pregnant with my DS and I know it's very very different when you've had an MC or multiple MCs but if all comes back well on the harmony test then I hope you can start enjoying this amazing time. I'm really really trying to stay positive and connect with this little one. With my DS I used to chat to him all the time and sing to him in the shower. I feel with this one I've been scared to do that in case I lose it but I'm trying to shake that thought now and give this little one all the chat and love that DS had before he was born. I risk being devastated but, let's be honest, we'd be devastated anyway - On getting that BFP that ship sailed!

I'm going to try and channel Yukka's positive pants! smile

rubyroot Fri 09-Aug-19 18:27:24

@Newbie21 I loved being pregnant with my son too. Its such a magical time esp when the movements start and you love them so much before they're even out.

I hope you ladies do get to enjoy your pregnancies once past the scary first trimester. I understand for a lot of us that will be difficult. X

InDreamland Fri 09-Aug-19 19:09:10

@strawberrye lovely to see you here. Congratulations on the BFP!

@sadtoday21 I hope the scan went well today.

@Laney79 lovely and must be so exciting to start feeling movements. It must feel so real now.

@Pancakesandwaffles good news on Tuesday's scan. Fx for good low risk harmony test results.

@moonpeace sitting on the M25 carpark is never fun. Sorry to hear about your family dog, that's so sad. Glad holiday was a distraction.

@Newbie21 thank you, I think I'm just wanting reassurance that the risks are low now but I guess after mc no matter how low the risk we'll always struggle with anxiety. Like you and @rubyroot I was so attached my my first but sadly that ended in mmc. I'm really struggling now to feel a bond but hoping over time that will change .....obviously hoping this one is our 🌈

So, got our Harmony test results, all good, low risk 1:10,000 for all 3. What a relief! Scan went well too. Much more comprehensive and informative I think than the NHS 12w scan we had. DH is very happy. They've dated 1 day ahead of NHS scan so all pretty accurate. I'm guessing it's to do with baby's growth spurt. Baby was being so cute, hiccups and covering it's face with it's hands. Again being stubborn like on Tuesday and not getting into position. I'll post a piccie later when I am home. We've not looked at the sex yet, it's in a sealed envelope. Just can't decide on knowing flavour or a surprise.

rubyroot Fri 09-Aug-19 19:13:16

@Indreamland that's exceent news. So, now you should think (now I know I don't take my own best advice) that you are past your own personal danger zone and enjoy your pregnancy.
BTW if you get results from NHS and they come back 1 in 80 or whatever, you need to ignore them as this will be largely to Di with your age x

InDreamland Fri 09-Aug-19 19:40:47

Thanks @rubyroot I definitely am happy we've got this far and it is a jice feeling to have hit this milestone.

Here's bubsy today.

MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue Fri 09-Aug-19 19:48:27

Yay @InDreamland!!! Fab news! The feral medicine centre are so amazingly detailed with their scans aren't they?! It's a world away from my local hospital (although my hospital is lovely) My DH couldn't believe the handwash and hand towels in the toilets! Haha!

I'm off on holiday tomorrow and so probably won't post for a while. Have packed my maternity notes and of course am paranoid of something happening while we are away. Will be thinking of everyone and wishing you all well xxx

MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue Fri 09-Aug-19 19:48:49

Fetal not feral 😂😂😂 Bad auto correct 😂

Beaglemum93 Fri 09-Aug-19 19:49:16

That's great news @InDreamland! Such a nice picture too smile

Bluebelltulip Fri 09-Aug-19 19:49:42

Congratulations @strawberrye.

@InDreamland great news.

@Newbie21 and @rubyroot, I agree we need to enjoy our pregnancies. For me my safe zone probably won't be until the baby is here (no signs of anything wrong with DD2 until 28 weeks). However I treasure the time I spent with her and do feel grateful for the little we got to know her. Her personality showed through.

Beaglemum93 Fri 09-Aug-19 19:50:51

Have a nice holiday @MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue smile

Frillyfarmer Fri 09-Aug-19 20:13:14

Evening all,

Great news on the scan @InDreamland - such a relief

Lovely to see you on here @strawberrye

I'm just a bag of nerves tonight, got a scan tomorrow where I should be 11 weeks, really just hope everything will be ok and then I can start to enjoy things.

rubyroot Fri 09-Aug-19 21:14:55

@Bluebelltip was actually thinking of you when I said for some of us it will be difficult. And I'm pretty crap at taking my own advice. I really did enjoy my successful pregnancy, but was still a bag of nerves throughout. @Frillyfarmer good luck for tomorrow. x

Squiff70 Fri 09-Aug-19 21:51:28

Sorry ladies, just a quick post from me tonight as I'm practically sleeping all the time!

Just wanted to congratulate @strawberrye! smile

fnej01 Fri 09-Aug-19 22:22:49

Happy Birthday @CodlingMoth - hope you celebrated x

@strawberrye fantastic news

@InDreamland beautiful scan, and great harmony results. Hope you can relax a tiny bit now and enjoy.

@rubyroot well done for booking with the midwife. I will see how I feel next week.

Sorry lost track of the thread today in case I missed anyone. Hope all are ok. We've just been for a curry and a non alcoholic beer! Thanks for the bday wishes x

Bellasblankexpression Fri 09-Aug-19 22:24:40

Hello all just parking up so I don’t lose the thread. Had a manic day and am about to fall into bed and zonk out completely but will be back tomorrow. Sleep well everyone!

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 23:06:04

Hey @Laney79 just wanted to say great to see you on here and that you're so far along now. I was wondering how you're getting on. Great news! Xx

Catconfusion Fri 09-Aug-19 23:13:43

That's a beautiful scan @InDreamland and such good news! Xx

InDreamland Sat 10-Aug-19 00:14:08

Thanks ladies

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue they certainly are very detailed with what they go through. I was so impressed. So glad were decided on the Harmony package now. They take so much time to explain every little thing it was so nice to feel informed. Have a fantastic holiday! Hope it's a good distraction from any anxiety.

@Frillyfarmer good luck for the scan tomorrow! Fx all is as it should be. Looking forward to a scan pic.

VenusStarr Sat 10-Aug-19 05:41:38

Brilliant news and what a beautiful scan picture @InDreamland! So pleased for you ❤️

Good to see you checking in @Laney79 smile

@frillyfarmer wishing you all the best for your scan today, will be thinking of you xx

@sadtoday21 hope you're OK xx

Another early start for me today... I've got to work later too! Not usual for me on a Saturday 😴

InDreamland Sat 10-Aug-19 07:41:33

Thanks @VenusStarr goodness you have a heavy day. Hope you're not going to be tired.

@Frillyfarmer good luck with scan today! Keeping fx for you!

@sadtoday21 hope everything is okay from yesterday's scan.

DH gone on his lads weekend ................. scared about history repeating itself.

Frillyfarmer Sat 10-Aug-19 07:54:52

@InDreamland do you mean your DH was away during a previous MC? I think now you've had positive results and another positive scan, voice got to try to look forwards a bit more. I know that's really difficult to do, but just remember that you can't jinx things and your DH going away can't make history repeat. Xx

Beaglemum93 Sat 10-Aug-19 08:06:21

Good luck today @Frillyfarmer!

@InDreamland I'm sorry your DH has gone away. I was so scared when mine went away for work because I was convinced I would miscarry while he was away. But as Frillyfarmer has said, all looked well at your scans and your harmony results are great so try to relax. We're here if you need to stress though!

I have a scan tomorrow, I really don't know how people manage to go though pregnancy with only 2 scans!

strawberrye Sat 10-Aug-19 08:46:48

Just managed to catch up on this thread!

@VenusStarr @Laney79 @Newbie21 @InDreamland @Bluebelltulip @Frillyfarmer @Squiff70 @fnej01 Thank you all! I am trying my best to think positively, especially as some statistics on the miscarriage association website say a scan at 8 weeks with a heartbeat gives a 98% chance of the pregnancy continuing. So I am trying to channel the positive pants too 🙂

@Laney79 amazing to hear how far on you are now! Best of luck for your anomaly scan and I hope you are able to enjoy the pregnancy or some of it at least

@moonpeace really sorry to hear about your parents dog, they really do become one of the family don't they? Hope you managed to enjoy your holiday

@frillyfarmer best of luck for your scan today, will be keeping my fingers crossed for you, let us know how it goes

@InDreamland beautiful scan and so pleased your harmony results came back reassuring. I can understand why your DH going away brings back difficult memories, but remember how positive your recent scans have been. Every pregnancy is different and this one is looking so positive ♥️

@Beaglemum93 good luck for your scan tomorrow

@sadtoday21 hoping your scan went well yesterday

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue have a lovely holiday

Mistymeow Sat 10-Aug-19 10:11:20

Hi everyone

Tentatively dipping my toe in. I have been on the penguin huddle thread since last May and found it so supportive and I’m very happy many of my buddies are having healthy pregnancies.

Age 35, ttc #1 for 3 years
Mmc (anembryonic) discovered at 9 wks April 2018
Mmc (heartbeat at 7 weeks, died at 8, discovered at 10) March 2019
Male factor infertility caused by genetic condition (treatable, but he has universally low sperm numbers).
Currently under Dr Shehata’s recurrent miscarriage clinic and on aspirin and progesterone pessaries
I’m 5w3d

I’m coping ok. I was so anxious when pregnant after the last loss and I still had a mmc I’ve told myself it’s completely pointless to worry. I’m reassured that we conceived naturally so quickly again that if this one doesn’t work out we can try again. I’m self employed and am suffering from low moods related to financial worries, which seems ridiculous considering what we have been through, but the hormones seem to send me a bit loopy!

So glad to see so many scan photos and familiar names. @strawberrye delighted to hear your news and @Frillyfarmer thinking of you for your scan.

I took my first progesterone pessary last night and it felt like I was inserting a candle!

Mistymeow Sat 10-Aug-19 10:37:54

(Please note I don’t know what inserting a candle feels like grin)

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 13:49:10

Thanks @strawberrye and @InDreamland!! The scan did go well, despite being in the exact same room as my mmc last time. It was very nerve-wracking, but the midwife was so kind and we saw the little bub wriggling around, measurements spot on for 8+6, and a nice hb! Still feeling really anxious, but trying to hang in there. Just a bit exhausted really, so sorry that I haven't had a chance to catch up on everyone's news just yet - I will!

Good luck @Frillyfarmer for your scan!! Thinking of you.

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 13:51:15

oh and massive congrats @InDreamland for your wonderful test results!!! I know you don't feel in the safe zone yet, and we all know that there is no such thing, but this is really good news and you are doing so well. Try not to worry too much about DH being away, this is a new pregnancy and history will not repeat itself. Sending hugs!

Thanks also @VenusStarr for checking on me - how are you doing? Do you have any scans coming up soon? Xxx

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 13:53:31

I also wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss @Russkispy - my heart was breaking for you when I read the news. You will be back here in no time at all and you are such a strong woman, we can all learn from you. Thinking of you and hoping you are doing as well as possible xxx.

Squiff70 Sat 10-Aug-19 14:21:22

Great to see you here @Mistymeow! Congrratulations!

tinatsarina Sat 10-Aug-19 14:38:33

@Russkispy sorry for your loss.
Just trying to catch up with everyone. The thread moves so quickly now.

Beaglemum93 Sat 10-Aug-19 14:52:24

Congratulations @Mistymeow!

And glad to hear your scan went well @sadtoday21

Frillyfarmer Sat 10-Aug-19 15:19:43

Scan measured 11weeks exactly, bang on the dates from the last scan, saw a strong heartbeat and bean was wriggling and jumping and waving all over the place 😊💞

I'm going to try to relax now and consider this my "safe point". This thread and the original huddle has taught me that tragedy can strike at any point in pregnancy but the MC association states that the chances of a successful pregnancy after seeing a heartbeat at 10 weeks is over 99% so the odds are in my favour now. Im going to try and take up the mantle from Yukka and be Mrs positive pants from here on in. Starting with buying some maternity clothes because my trousers are cutting me in half!

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 15:28:51

Thanks @Beaglemum93!!

Beautiful scan photo @Frillyfarmer! I'm two weeks behind you and also going to get an 11 week scan most likely, fx for the same happy outcome as you. And totally agree about the positive (and maternity) pants! xxx

rubyroot Sat 10-Aug-19 16:06:17

Great news @sadtoday21 @Frillyfarmer

rubyroot Sat 10-Aug-19 16:07:11

@DuvetCaterpillar How are you twin? 😉And When's your next scan?

strawberrye Sat 10-Aug-19 16:07:49

@Mistymeow thrilled to see you here, congratulations!

@Frillyfarmer congratulations what a beautiful scan! I think your positive attitude is brilliant. My next scan I will be 10+4 and really hoping for a result which means I can also be reassured by that statistic

@sadtoday21 brilliant news about your scan

Is anyone struggling with gas at the moment? I am so burpy it's unreal, especially after food, and it's definitely more gassy down the other end too blush Any tips to manage it? Not complaining as I'm taking it as a pregnancy sign but I wonder whether people at work are going to find it as amusing as my DH!

strawberrye Sat 10-Aug-19 16:09:00

That was meant to be an embarrassed face not a sad one

Newbie21 Sat 10-Aug-19 17:15:12

Lovely news @Frillyfarmer and @sadtoday21

I hear you @strawberrye not sure I have a cure. I'm off fizzy drinks. I think eating smaller amounts more frequently rather than large meals but easier said than done. I think it's just one of those things!

I'm so tired and I'm so fed up feeling tired. I probably don't help myself as after a tiring week of work DH and I always like to do fun things with DS at weekends, being 3 he has sooooo much energy that needs burning off but it's exhausting! Early night tonight I think! I was not half this tired in my previous pregnancy. Maybe it's age or maybe I forget how much more time I could make for me when pregnant the first time or combination of the two. Please tell me others are permanently shattered?!?

moonpeace Sat 10-Aug-19 17:56:03

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Bluebelltulip Sat 10-Aug-19 18:01:23

Congratulations on your scans @frillyfarmer and @sadtoday21.

@Newbie21 permanently shattered here too, toddlers and pregnancy are not a good combination. My DD is staying with Grandma for a few days this week so looking forward to some rest.

@rubyroot I'm not good at taking my own advice either then I feel guilty that I'm not as excited this time but I know that's natural. Trying to find a balance.

strawberrye Sat 10-Aug-19 18:27:36

@Newbie21 yeah maybe I need to cut out first drinks. I normally never drink them but am finding ginger beer (non alcoholic of course) really helps the nausea. With regards to the tiredness I am certainly needing a lie down in the afternoon and getting more tired in the evening - having been off work a couple of weeks I'm dreading managing this at work as I work long days and a pretty full on job. I don't have a toddler to run around after though so you have my utmost respect!!

@moonpeace thanks! I have given up caffeine completely, did so whilst TTC but that's just personal preference really. I just have decaf tea and never really have Coke etc. My weakness is chocolate wink I think the recommendation is less than 200 micrograms of caffeine a day in pregnancy, Tommy's have a good calculator which might help alleviate your worries?

strawberrye Sat 10-Aug-19 18:29:10

*fizzy not first
And what is going on with these emoticons, my weakness is chocolate, winking face, not chocolate gin! Although that is a business idea...

DuvetCaterpillar Sat 10-Aug-19 18:35:05

Thanks @rubyroot and @InDreamland for the tags - the threads have moved so fast I nearly missed you all on the new thread!

@russkispy I'm so sorry for your loss, awful news. How are you holding up? Hope the physical pain isn't too much - there's no real cure for the emotional sort, but a big virtual hug to you to help you ride through it. Thinking of you.

@frillyfarmer @sadtoday21 great news on the scans, and fantastic Harmony results @InDreamland - am so pleased for you all.
Many happy returns to the birthday girls as well!

Quick recap on me - 34, no living children, TTC #1 since Sept 2018, ectopic pregnancy and left Fallopian tube removal in Feb 2019. Currently 7+1 weeks pregnant again, and swinging madly between excitement and anxiety.

@rubyroot I'm doing OK thanks, overall. Was a bit of a panicking mess a couple of days this week, but DH has now returned from a week away, and he's always lovely and reassuring to have around, so am feeling calmer. Had my midwife booking in appointment as well and she's going to put me down for some of their 'managing anxiety with exercise' sessions, which I'm really looking forward to. How are things with you?

DuvetCaterpillar Sat 10-Aug-19 18:39:40

Ooh, welcome @mistymeow, how lovely to see you here! Hope your stay with us is full term, contented and entirely uneventful.

@moonpeace I'm not cutting out caffeinated drinks, but I've never really drunk them very often anyway (4/5 cups of tea a week, no coffee, limited chocolate). I've switched to decaf tea because I found a brand that tastes nice (Yorkshire) but if I fancy a can of Coke, I'm generally cracking on.

rubyroot Sat 10-Aug-19 19:09:30

@moonpeace at the moment I'm drinking around a cup of dried coffee in morn and one or two cups of tea a day. I did go decaff last pregnancy. Haven't done that this time.

Newbie21 Sat 10-Aug-19 19:21:05

@moonpeace I started drinking decaf whilst TTC and have an occasional cup of tea. Now pregnant I'm completely off coffee - the smell makes me nauseous but I have the occasional tea and also drink lemon and ginger tea. I was having a Coke Zero once every couple of days which has caffeine in it. I can't seem to find decaf Coke Zero here in uk and I'm not a fan of diet decaf coke. But now I struggle with fizzy drinks so it's v occasional - but that's not anti-caffeine thing. Also I'm not going to say no chocolate and that has caffeine in it wink

Beaglemum93 Sat 10-Aug-19 19:52:25

Congratulations on your scan @Frillyfarmer!

@moonpeace I switched to decaf tea while TTC and I haven't had chocolate since finding out because I'm trying to stay caffeine free. I'm being overcautious though because I don't want to be able to blame myself if something goes wrong again.

Mistymeow Sat 10-Aug-19 20:06:00

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

@moonpeace I stick to the nhs guidelines and have one filter coffee a day. I understand that people may want to cut out caffeine completely but I’m finding it helps lift my mood in the morning. I’m not worried at all that one coffee a day is going to do anything. I miscarried drinking coffee last time, didn’t drink any the first time and still miscarried. But it’s whatever that makes you feel comfortable. Alternatively m&s do a really nice decaf smile

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 20:10:08

Thanks @moonpeace @Newbie21@Bluebelltulip @DuvetCaterpillar @Beaglemum93!!! Fx these good scans can keep coming for all of us Xxx.

@moonpeace I did cut out all coffee in my first pregnancy, which ended in mmc at 12 weeks. This time I promised I wouldn't stress too much, so I allowed myself coffee (only 1 a day max), but actually I can't stomach it. It's weird, I don't have morning sickness, but I can't stand the smell or taste of coffee (I usually LOVE coffee and I drink at least 2-3 cups a day). So I am not drinking any, as it turns out. But I think it is a personal choice and that one cup of coffee a day is totally fine.

Frillyfarmer Sat 10-Aug-19 21:21:48

@moonpeace I've cut out caffeine from coffee (by drinking the same amount but decaf - placebo effect) and if I fancy a Diet Coke I buy the caffeine free version. That way I figure I have loads to play with in case I fancy chocolate or coffee out occasionally. 200mg is the NHS recommendation and I figured that must be based on research - they don't have a safe research amount on alcohol so they say best to avoid, I feel because they're allowing 200mg in the "safe" category, it must be fine to have that?

I'd recommend the "expecting better" book by Emily oster- I read it during my first pregnancy and it really really helped rest my anxiety by plain explaining the research and risks of pregnancy.

sadtoday21 Sat 10-Aug-19 21:26:54

Second everything @Frillyfarmer said - great book and 200 mg of caffeine is fine.

Anyone else feeling completely exhausted? Just hit 9 weeks today and feeling really sluggish!

fnej01 Sat 10-Aug-19 21:48:16

@moonpeace like others I have converted predominantly to decaf and the placebo effect. About once a week I have a normal coffee. I've not really had any fizzy drinks but wouldn't worry about a coke if I fancied it. I drink decaf tea normally. I do like chocolate so figure I am using some allowance for that.
I basically figure I have so many diagnoses - if it's all going to go wrong there is going to be a queue of likely reasons on the list before caffeine.

Lovely scan @Frillyfarmer

@InDreamland not sure if I congratulated you on the harmony results yesterday - so pleased for you

I am totally pooped today - slept in and 2 naps and still dead on my feet!

Hope all are doing ok x

coconutlatte44 Sat 10-Aug-19 22:24:19

2 naps today for me too 😅 Back to work on Monday after the summer holidays and just crossing my fingers I can make it through the work day!!

moonpeace Sat 10-Aug-19 22:41:47

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VenusStarr Sun 11-Aug-19 10:00:38

Morning all.

Glad to hear you had a good scan @sadtoday21 ❤️ it must have been such a relief xx

@frillyfarmer beautiful scan picture, glad all is well and hope you can begin to relax now. Was that your 12 week or do you have another?

@InDreamland, hope you're doing OK with dh away 💜 good news about your results too.

I'm struggling today, 4+5 and just feel on edge. Feel like my symptoms have eased off a bit, so paranoid that it's all over. Just trying to reassure myself that I'm not bleeding. It's hard because having a mmc previously my body didn't let me know there was an issue. Can I just sleep until I know it's all OK? 😔🤞

@Catconfusion how are you today? Xx

Bellasblankexpression Sun 11-Aug-19 10:04:16

So much to catch up on! I won’t name drop individually as I will be writing an essay but I’m really chuffed to see lots of scan pics and good news.

Really sad to read your news @russkispy sad I hope you are looking after yourself life is bloody cruel sometimes

I’ve started feeling nervous about our twenty week scan already even though it’s not until the 27th. It’s the one we got bad news at last time and although that same issue hasn’t been evident so far, the little fluid issue has come up and now it’s just a wait and see game til that scan. I was already going to be a wreck for it because of last time and now I just feel sick whenever I think about it sad

I also feel sick every single time I eat something confused thought all the sickness had buggered off but obviously not.

Interesting to see so many of you have gone off coffee - I have too and was a previous total coffee fiend. I miss having it but cannot stomach it. I had decaff last time and midwife said that was fine

Newbie21 Sun 11-Aug-19 10:11:13

@Bellasblankexpression I hope all will be well and that the anxiety doesn't get the better of you although I can totally understand why you feel that way. Easier said than done, but if you can, try to occupy your mind with other fun things or projects for the next few weeks. The odds are certainly in your favour so I hope you can stay positive x

Catconfusion Sun 11-Aug-19 10:49:52

Hey @VenusStarr sorry to hear you’re on edge today. I think you’re right that mmc makes you more sceptical, even when no bleeding and cramping. We know now the logic of it being viable because no bleeding and cramping didn’t work for us.

I think the pregnancy symptoms do come in waves. My breasts weren’t as sore yesterday morning but last night they were so sore they stung. Try not to worry if you’re feeling a bit better. I don’t think it’s a case of them gradually getting worse.

I had a mishap with my progesterone pessary last night. I thought I’d put it in but DH found the shell of it on the bathroom floor this morning. It must have pinged off the applicator when I pulled it out. Of course I examine the applicator for blood each time. I had a panic about my progesterone level dropping and miscarriage but it seems highly unlikely. I put another one in this morning so I’m sure it’ll be fine.

Overall I feel calm today but I know that might change. I just keep saying to myself there is nothing else I can do. The fate of this pregnancy is already decided. It’s a different pregnancy so my chances are good. I just need to get to each mile stone. 5 weeks on Tuesday is the next! I do wish we could just all go to sleep until we know it’s all ok! Xx

VenusStarr Sun 11-Aug-19 11:01:05

Yes 5 weeks is my next milestone (tomorrow) 🤞 that's true about the fate already being decided. I just hope it's decided in our favour 💜 @Catconfusion I told dh I feel too scared to dtd at the moment and he totally understands. Just wish I could be normal and not so anxious. Guess this is my new normal for now.

I'm sure the pessary is OK. You do sound very calm, will try and take your lead xx

VenusStarr Sun 11-Aug-19 11:14:33

Just realised I can't add up and I'm 4+6 today, that makes me feel a bit better.

Bellasblankexpression Sun 11-Aug-19 11:20:08

@venusstarr my symptoms have come and gone all the time. I’m now 18 weeks and they still come and go. I would try not to read too much into it - I know it’s hard - mmc is one of the biggest headfucks and really messes with your mind when you’re pregnant again.

Thanks @Newbie21 I’m certainly hoping so! I’m not sure I can cope with going through it all again if it doesn’t end up in our favour.

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