Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
//sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
//cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[LucindaE]

Mother Hen here with a red face.

[Hollyhop17]

Yes this one works! No red face needed, you are providing us all with a great service.

I didnt know that about HG clinics Lemondrop. Will look into it tomorrow. I have only been in hospital once for dehydration, and that was early on, so l'm by no means as severe as some people on here. Today has been ok nausea wise. Well, I felt horrendous this morning but it has lifted and not been sick. Though just about to clean my teeth so famous last words and that...

[CosyCoupe88]

This thread is a great idea :)

[LucindaE]

Thank you for kind words, CosyCoupe88 and Hollyhop.
I hate my PC at times. It's started to do weird things recently, but it's supposed to be clear of viruses...
I hope after that farce that most people find their way over here....

[Oklahoma]

Four I am a huge fan of sacrificial food too! I always throw up stomach bile first thing then whatever the first thing I eat it so I have learnt to put cheap food in first. Banana is my go to sacrifice as it tastes the same coming back up.

Blondes agree on the doing stuff. I have thrown up in some very strange places but I would gone insane otherwise.

Currently lying in bed trying to face moving. Took Oklette to nursery this morning then came straight home to bed. Not going well today.

[Oklahoma]

Holly severity is irrelevant. You feel terrible and we will support you through it. That's all there is to it. Hugs.

[Hollyhop17]

Thanks Oaklahoma. Not having a great day today. Not been sick since Saturday but the nausea is quite bad.

I hope today improves for you. I am dreaming of being induced early. No way I can cope with another 14 weeks...

[Lemondrop09]

Hello new thread

People who have done this before, or who had their sickness ease off in the second trimester - did you find you were totally wiped out after a "good day"? I don't think I over did it particularly yesterday, although I was my active than I've been in a while. But I've exhausted today, struggling to keep my eyes open. Need to work but just want to nap. I also woke up feeling nauseous but no sickness yet.

I don't know how to handle these "good days". How do you balance feeling better, taking advantage to enjoy doing something normal and look to cut down medication - which the risk of overdoing things and cutting down to soon?

I feel like I'm creeping out of the worst of this, but keep crashing back the other way. I want to start helping around the house again etc, and feel extra guilty after having a better day that I'm not pulling my weight, but doing stuff still seems to know me out. So frustrating

[Oklahoma]

Lemon I spent the whole of the last preg having good day, terrible day, ok day, good day, terrible day, ok day because I would try and do too much on the good days. It's so hard not to but it doesn't help anyone if you try and do too much.

[katemeister]

After lurking on the last thread I thought I would say hello here. I'm 9 weeks, 2nd pregnancy panning out the same way as my 1st with severe nausea and sickness but not to the point of hospitalisation or medication but having a serious impact on my work, home life and sanity! I'm just so bored of forcing down food that either comes up or just leaves me feeling awful unless I sleep the moment I've finished. And then I just feel awful when I wake up and it starts again. Trying to stay positive as it did ease off around 18 weeks last time but having a bit of a self-pity day today. It is comforting to see the support you are all giving each other with such a horrible illness.

[LucindaE]

katemeister Welcome. It sounds as if you are surely suffering badly enough for meds. Do ask for some, particularly as you are trying to keep on at work. You are a veteran, so maybe I don't need to ask my inevitable question - have you got kesostix to check for the early stages of dehydration? How do you find flat full sugar coke, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit - especially peaches and pears, soda water, Dr Pepper, ice lollies, elderflower water, sips of chocolate milk shake (maybe soya) cheap ice cream, jelly, nibbles of crisps, cuppa soup or maybe Lucozade and fizzy orange?
Lemondrop I so agree with Oklahoma - don't overdo it on good days, and don't try and cut down on meds until you have had a lot of good days!
Oklahoma Sorry about bad day. I'm glad Okette being in a nursery means you can rest - how old is she now?
Hollyhop Much sympathy. It is very hard to bear for those who suffer later on. You will get there!
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

[katemeister]

Thank you so much LucindaE I am a veteran but in need of some sympathy and a pep talk. I'm getting a few of those things down but today my fail safes of melon, salt and vinegar squares and lucozade failed me today. I was massively fobbed off by my GP a couple of weeks ago - I would have scored well for HG Bingo "ginger" "thalidomide" "sea-bands" and "better by 12 weeks" all got a mention! It must be really hard to not over do it on a good day but rest is king!

[MotherofPearl]

Place marking on the new thread.

[Lemondrop09]

Welcome Kate. I hope your sickness doesn't hang around too long again. I kept experimenting with food, what I could stomach changed every few days and I'd go off what I previously lived on (much to the frustration of my DH who would inevitably stock up on an item the day before I decided to go off it!). And don't get me started on "have you tried ginger".......Another poster coined the perfect phrase "ginger rage". I definitely get ginger rage!

Ergh, I'm vomiting tonight. sulk I really can't see how I'm ever going to get back into the office. I'm bumbling through WAH now, with lunchtime naps and a bowl to hand. I can't face the idea of a London commute.

[Melleebacca]

Lemon - it's so hard not to push yourself when you're having a good day. Try and rest up even if you're feeling ok. Last pregnancy I was off work from 5w to 24w. I felt well enough to return at 20w, but took an extra 4w to build up my strength, and I really needed it.

Exhausted here again today, as always. Growing a human on a diet of next to nothing is exhausting. Still can't drop down on the ondansetron yet, if I take a pill half an hour late, the nausea ramps up again. 19w to go!

[DevilWearsPrimark]

Hello all. I'm not sure if I'm in the right place, but I've been experiencing morning sickness for the past week and a half- almost every bit of food I've eaten has come back up, and I'm surviving on half-gingernuts and sips of water.
It's making me very tired so far, I've tried to drink apple juice for some energy, but it just comes straight back up!

[Hollyhop17]

Morning all, very much in a 'fuck it' mood today. Feeling very sorry for myself. I just cant understand why I am still suffering at 26 weeks. I am genuinely terrified it will never go away and Ill always feel sick, even if the being sick stops. I dont know how I'll cope with having a baby to look after and feeling like this. Sorry for the pity party...

[Oklahoma]

Hi DWP sounds like you are in exactly the right place. Everyone on this thread is either going through or has gone through horrific pregnancy sickness. It sounds to me like you need to speak to your GP to get meds to help you keep some good and fluids down. The meds these days are really safe and have been tested on millions of women worldwide. They normally start you on cyclizine. Do not underestimate how sick you are or think that being that sick is a normal part of pregnancy. Getting help early is crucial so you don't spiral out of control. We are all here to support you so ask any questions you want.

[Oklahoma]

Holly you have all my sympathy. My first pregnancy was exactly the same. I was still being sick when I was in labour, it never did clear up as promised. I was exhausted and malnourished when Oklette was born and the bf kept the hormones circulating so the nausea continued for weeks after her birth. BUT it did go. I had it for longer than anyone else I came across on this thread apart from Lucinda but even mine eventually stopped. So you will get through it too. And you will stop being sick and then stop feeling sick and you will bond with your child and the HG will become a distant memory. The early days post HG with a baby are really hard but I promise you that the nausea just lifts after the placenta leaves your body. I remember eating toast in hospital about an hour after Oklette was born and thinking nothing had ever tasted so good. And it is worth it. Look how many people on here are having second babies (although I think HG amnesia may have something to do with that). Hang on in there. HG is just awful and it's so unfair that something that should be magical ends up being the worst time of your life. Pity party as much as you need. We're here...

[pauseplayrepeat]

New shiny thread, thanks Lucinda.
Have to agree with everyone else Lemon in saying that, even though it's frustrating, on 'good' days you should try not to do too much more than you would on a bad day. And I'd only think about cutting down on meds if you've had more good days/hours than bad for a week or so at least. Hope you're slowing getting over the worst of it.
kate had to laugh at the HG bingo. We should get cards made up . The GP I saw the other week prescribed me the meds I wanted but a small supply and said, 'well, you won't be needing them more than a couple of months anyway'. I couldn't help but say through gritted teeth that that sadly wasn't the case in my last 2 pregnancies. Lasted until labour, but luckier than some poor sufferers, it did end as soon as I gave birth. Remember clearly waking up the day after giving birth both times and just crying with relief.
DWP sorry you're feeling so bad but glad you found this thread. Everyone on here is so supportive. Have to agree with Oklahoma, maybe go see your GP to check you're not getting too dehydrated.

[katemeister]

You are all warriors getting through this. Holly it does feel like it will never end when you are in it, but it will. We might not know when but it will end. I hope today has been better for everyone.

[katemeister]

You are all warriors getting through this. Holly it does feel like it will never end when you are in it, but it will. We might not know when but it will end. I hope today has been better for everyone.

[fourcorneredcircle]

Holly NCT was good. I'd been really looking forward to it and then last week received a frankly bizarre email about making sure I took "birth nest building supplies"... which made me somewhat however, no, it was good. Full of very normal people and the course leader wasn't that wooooo herself. Phew!

Lemon so, so easy to over do it! Someone suggested colouring a calendar in red/amber/green depending on how the day went. I started it and felt so much more in control - after a run of red I knew an amber would come... likewise I knew a green would come... but it was a way to look back and remind myself that red followed green very easily...

Back home now after a few days in Northumberland. I have a new recipe to try. Potato soup. I shit you not... this could be HG gold ladies... beige, potato based, liquid, easy to regurgitate... I'll report back!

[LucindaE]

DevilWearsPrimark Welcome. Sorry you feel so foul. Ginger is a myth. I so agree with others that you need meds. Explain how often you are sick, and count heaves, not separate sessions - that's the way dr's count.
Also, do invest in some kesostix -available from any chemists- to test the early stages of dehydration. How do you find flat full sugar coke, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit, especially peaches and pears, ice lollies, soda water, jelly, ice cubes (maybe made of the flat coke), Elderflower Water, sips of chocoate milkshake, jelly, Lucozade, fizzy orange, cuppa soup, slices of melon, cheap ice cream, or nibbles of crisps or chips? Those are some foods I and others found most useful.
Katemesiter I can't believe that advice. It is too bad that 'thalidomide' is held as a stick over everyone's head these days - that could never happen now; drugs like cyclizine have been used for decades without a significant link with birth defects. Much sympathy. As for 'twelve weeks' from anecdotal evidence, even moderate MS often doesn't clear up until fourteen weeks..Bingo indeed!
Lemondrop Aagh, poor you on that London commute. How did it go? Can you get a sick note, or do circumstances make it impossible?
Melleebacca Wise advice.
PausePlayRepeat and MotherofPearl Waves.
fourcorneredcircle I am glad NCT was good after all...
Oklahoma That is very brilliant reassurance. I don't want to scare anybody by mentioning occasionally that for the very few, it lingers after delivery, but as you say, that is usually due to breastfeeding and in those circumstances, I'm sure everyone will agree that the best thing to do is to give it up, though it makes you feel so guilty these days when everyone is encouraged to keep at it.
Hollyhop Don't worry, of course, the idea that it might linger after birth is awful, but it only happens very occasionally, and then it seems to be connected with breastfeeding. I was only violently ill for maybe ten days and that was probably made worse by an infection. After that, it was mild nausea, and went entirely with giving up breastfeeding, as Oklahoma says.
I must bring over the due dates list...
Apologies if I've cross posted/ rudely overlooked someone.

[Hollyhop17]

Thanks all. Someone from PSS called me today for a chat. It ended up being so emotional, I startted crying explaining everything, then she started crying. I pr0bably brought it all back for her. She was lovely but boy have I felt massively depressed all day.

I have been sat staring at the state of my house, which is disgusting. Feel like I will never be a functioning member of society who does chores, goes to work, socialises, ever again.