Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[LucindaE]

OK.
I feel bad about suggesting a due dates list to cheer everyone up, because I know a couple on here, NewRoom and Willow have a miscarriage risk higher than average. I hope it doesn't seem insensitive on me to suggest a due dates list to cheer people in general up, a light at the end of the tunnel thing? The list is so out of date, I've only got these.
Due Dates
Mampam 17 November
Sassehmonsta 15 December
SomeSunnySunday 24 December
Sarah 29 December
Kalidasa 28 January
EmysMarie 15 March

[DurhamRed]

Hi Lucinda, my due date is 19th March.

Hope everyone is feeling a little better today.

[kalidasa]

Hello all. Just checking in on the new thread. basgetti do you have any psychological support? Are you having any counseling? It's really hard to know what to say because I know how reassuring it is to hear lots of women say that the dreadful pregnancy had no impact on bonding, but I think it's also important to be honest and admit that statistically a very complicated pregnancy + pre-natal depression does increase your risk of PND and difficulties bonding as a result. (Not everyone with PND has trouble bonding, but most women with severe PND do.) I always hesitate to post about this but I was in that unlucky category and I think it's important not to gloss over it as the whole issue provokes such a sense of guilt and isolation as it is. Anyway, do PM me if you'd like. The main thing to say is that I did get over it and obviously I am pregnant again! Even though the HG and SPD have both been unbelievably actually worse this time (already in a wheelchair with 11 weeks still to go and still throwing up) I have held up better emotionally/psychologically because I have been much better supported - e.g. weekly counseling all the way through and peri-natal psychiatric team is standing by to intervene immediately after the birth if the same thing seems to be happening as last time. If you feel that you are really struggling I think it's really important that you speak to someone about it - there are e.g. specialist midwives with an interest in mental health support.

[NoRoomForALittleOne]

I'll stay off the due date list for now but it's not insensitive at all. Today I have the joy of sickness AND period-type pain. I wish my body would decide between HG and trying to miscarry

[WillowHouse]

i'll wait till i get to the magic 12 week mark before adding due date but not at all insenitive

I second seeking support for mental health - last time I had antenatal depression 'cos i was so ill. My lovely GP arranged counselling and family support which got me through. This time I'm coping better - largely i think as i have a partner this time so i can take the drugs and just sleep through it.

[WillowHouse]

no room I understand with that sentimemt. DH does not understand because when i feel awful im miserable and the odd good day panics me as i am convinced that im miscarrying. Its hard.

[basgetti]

Hi all, Lucinda my due date is 21st December.

Kali sorry you are suffering so badly with the double blow of HG and SPD, it's nor fair! I've not sought out support apart from crying to the MW a couple of times in hospital. I'm not feeling quite so low at the moment as the sickness has eased a lot, but I am still worried about bonding so I'll definitely keep an eye on how I'm feeling.

NoRoom and Willow sorry you are both going through this additional stress x

I had clinic appt this morning, doctor gave me a quick presentation scan. Baby is transverse now, so another scan in 2 weeks and if no change will be planning delivery method. He also told me to reduce the nausea by eating toast and drinking apple juice???!! I think I'll stick to my salty crisps and fat coke!

Hope everyone else is feeling okay xx

[Newshoesplease]

Marking place waves

Due date 12th June.

[muddylettuce]

Marking place and scoffing at doctor's magic cure bas!
Due date is 26th May. Still bed ridden

[Newshoesplease]

Me too muddy

[LucindaE]

Due Aates

Due Dates
Mampam 17 November
Sassehmonsta 15 December
basgetti 21 December
SomeSunnySunday 24 December
Sarah 29 December
Kalidasa 28 January
EmysMarie 15 March
Durham Red 19 March
MuddyLettuce 26 May
NewShoesPlease 12 June

NoRoom and Willow that is so sweet of you. Hugs, sorry about pains that's awful.
basgetti Obviously, that's the thing, then - follow that dr's advice and throw away meds at once and you'll be a new woman. Silly man, is all I can say.
waves to Muddy and everyone.

Kalidasa That is a very brave post, but then, you don't need me to tell you you are. On bonding, it seems to take longer if someone's been ill throughout - but if you are very very unlucky and are ill afterwards then that is, I think, a reason why it can be delayed. But we know it comes.
I don't like to mention this often when people are suffering now and almost everyone feels better immediately after the birth, but it can happen that this thing lingers for a little while. I've only known it happen to about five of the people who've been on all these threads over the years, but by co-incidence, three of those are on this thread now, Kalidasa Meerka and me.
Mereka and Kalidasa been ill throughout, but I'd been OK save for awful heartburn leading to occasional vomiting after week fifteen; as against that, I did have infected stiches and anemia from a pph so maybe that set it off. With me it vanished after maybe ten days.
I do feel that I didn't warn the unlucky tiny minority about that dismal experience. The medics gave me some pretty hopeless advice, stop being sick.
xx

[Newshoesplease]

lucinda a girl opposite me in hospital was told "stop being sick" too. It beggars belief.

I am at my wits end. I'm not taking folic acid. Not taking vitamin d, not been outside. Not taking calcium, not brushing teeth.
I'm so so low. It's like my worst depression ever x 10.

I haven't been sick yet today but that doesn't ease anything. There's no point in my existence.
I don't understand why I decided to ruin my life and my dh and dc life by having another baby.
My kids need a hair cut. They look fucking neglected. And they're having another fucking ready meal.

[Emsymarie]

newshoes I'm sorry you're feeling so low, this thing really sucks and is extremely lonely and I understand how endless it feels. By the looks of your due date you must be right in the thick of the absolute worst part of this hideous condition. I know at your stage I started to look into terminations so you are amongst people who understand here. I know nothing I say is going to make you feel any better but please just know that you will get through this. Fingers crossed for a slight improvement soon, how many weeks are you now? xx

[Emsymarie]

Oh and basgetti I can definitely hand on heart say from bitter experience apple juice is a very bad idea!!

[basgetti]

I know, what stupid advice, and toast is one of my worst things to bring up so I've been avoiding that too. It was part of some food protocol thing that also included banana and rice, it spelled out BRAT apparently. I think I'm a bit beyond nutritional advice anyway at this stage! He also examined me and told me the baby's head was engaged, then had to correct himself when he did the scan and didn't see the issue anyway as he assumed I'd be having another section (I've never had a section). I can only hope he got a bit flustered by a busy clinic!

Newshoes I'm so sorry for how you are feeling. I've had so many meltdowns the past few months of the 'what was I thinking' kind. I hope you start to feel better soon xx

[Meerka]

basgetti actually when I think about it - the bonding with the Pipsqueak was immediate.

But in truth, it did take a while with our first son. Poor mite. I truly think it was because the HG was completely untreated and I tried to do too much after the birth and I was extremely weak. As I got stronger the bonding kicked in. But it did take a while.

I wonder if being looked after in hospital those last 3 weeks helped me be stronger (even if it was a bad time)? Plus being fitter before the preg. Plus husband doing way way more this preg ... huh. just wondering.

newshoes .... just getting through another hour sometimes is the most you can hope for. Even getting through the next fifteen minutes. Hang on in there. { non-scented }

[Meerka]

ah, sorry for the double post but Lucinda, ive started breastfeeding again and the milk's returned and it's not creating the same surges of strong nausea that it did before. Guess enough time has passed ... also I'm getting more sleep, the nausea and upchucking is definitely worse after a few nights' bad sleep.

[DurhamRed]

Not had a good day today, nausea seemed to ramp up a level and have been sick a few times throughout the day. I'm hoping this is just a blip and not the return of severe vomiting. I've a return to work appointment tomorrow with my gp too...I'm so annoyed!!

To top it off I've had row with OH about housework (I didn't do the washing today as felt too sick) and childcare costs (he's freaking out about money and taking it out on me, I think he's worried that I won't be going back to work next week and we need the money) he's now not talking to me. I've gone back to bed, I don't need the added stress.

[LucindaE]

NewShoes Hugs. don't worry about their hair, I doubt they will, just concentrate on surviving. This will get better. It's ideal to take those vitamins and minerals, but don't worry that you can't, those little parasites flourish anyway.
Meerka Waves. Pipsqueak is a lucky baby.
waves to all.
xx

[LucindaE]

DurhamRed Oh dear, you don't need this, it could be a virus. OH may be stressed, but sulking should be strictly forbidden. Cyber pats.
xx

[Caitmous]

Oh I'm do glad to find this thread! I'm due 25th June.

I've not been diagnosed with hyperemesis but I feel bloody awful all day long. Not vomming daily but just feel sick at all times with no let up. I started a thread yesterday on chat asking for advice and got loads (thanks if any was from you guys).

I didn't mention on that thread but I also suffered both a miscarriage and very quickly afterwards got pregnant that was ectopic and had to be surgically removed.

People keep trying to reassure me that morning sickness = a developing pregnancy. But I had morning sickness throughout the first 11wks of the pregnancy, even though the baby died at 8wks (I didn't bleed til 12weeks 'missed miscarriage'). So I'm not reassured at all by the nausea.

I think some of it might be in my head as I have been feeling worse in the run up to my scans (had lots because of ectopic & mc). Got one on thurs - ten weeks. Really nervous about it.

Anyway. I really wanted to get pregnant. Now I feel like an ungrateful cow because I'm moaning all the time about feeling sick.

So glad to have found you.

[WillowHouse]

newshoes i know this has been said before but feeling low can be a sign that you are deyhdrated. I feel very simillar you but from past experience it does get better.

DurhamRed i hope you feel better soon. Men just don't get this

Cat hi i had a 5 week miscarriage last september and three chemical pregnancies and with all i was sick. I hate people trying to fob me off as if feeling like death is a good thing I hope this little one sticks and you feel better soon.

I am in a bad cycle where i feel to ill to go and get food but not eating makes me more ill

[Newshoesplease]

Thanks for everyone's kind words. I will try & post a proper response in the morning. I'm struggling to drink so maybe it is ketones. Ordered ketostix online so hopefully they come soon
X

[Newshoesplease]

Wrote an essay replying to you all individually and it didn't post.
(Of course it didn't)
Sorry.

[LucindaE]

Caitmous Welcome. Sorry you have had such dismal luck with an mc and an ectopic pregnancy, and now this. It is very hard to have had bad sickness with the mmc as well. Still, the chances are overwhelmingly in favcour of a successful outcome this time. I know statistics don't seem to count when you are anxious, though; I had an mmc and was very nervous throughout because of it.
If you've had lots of advice you've probably heard that flat coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, jelly, soda water and nibbles of crisps can be helpful. Some find ice cream good, too (the cheap sort). Do use kestostix from chemists to watch out for dehydration as even without vomiting you can get dehydrated if you can't drink enough. I'll add you to due dates list asap.
HexyQueen Are you still in hospital? I hope you can find our new thread.
Sympathies for all those suffering, and especially from OH's who don't really understand even if they try, and for all those who've had mc's or are worrying about possible future ones.
xx