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Formula Milk?(20 Posts)
I have already asked some of my friends but am putting this out there to see what your advice/opinions are too.
I intend on breastfeeding our baby when he/she is born until around 6 weeks when I will either combine feed or switch to formula feeding. In preparation for this, and also in the unlikely event that when baby is here I can't/don't like breastfeeding etc I want to buy a tub of formula milk.
DH and I looked at the cans in the supermarket last night and tbh, as first timers, we were baffled. Hubby said "£9, bloodyhell that's expensive!" but as I pointed out to him, a huge tin probably does a lot of feeds. We also then saw the ready made little bottles of milk.
So my questions are....
1. What brand do/will you use? We saw C&G and have heard very good reviews so would like to use that but are aware there are other brands out there too and are not sure if one if better than the other.
2. The MW at our antenatal session said a newborn's stomach only holds approx 7ml. The measurements on the side make up 90ml at a time... Surely that's massively wasteful to be throwing so much away? Can we make up less on demand etc?
3. We saw the little bottles of ready mixed and ready to go formula which has 200ml (approx 20 feeds based on the info above) so could we use those instead? Can you use one of those bottles over a whole day/two days or does it have a shelf life once opened?
Thanks in advance for any replies!
There is a forum under 'feed the world' about baby feeding who have been great for such questions- maybe post there as there are some baby feeding advisers on there.
I haven't formula fed but as far as I know, the different brands are very similar - all formula is made according to quite rigid specifications so there isn't much variation.
The ready to feed bottles will be a more expensive way of doing it. I expect you can't leave them long once opened. Ideally you're supposed to make up each feed fresh when needed - there is a limit to how long you cankeep bottles in the fridge.
If you plan to breastfeed for the first few weeks, the baby will be taking more milk once you switch - in the first few days they only need a tiny amount and if you bf you only produce small amounts of colostrum for the first three days. Then your milk comes in around Day 3 and baby will drink increasingly large amounts.
The ready made bottles can be kept in fridge once opened for 24 hours. Anything made up in a feeding bottle has to be thrown away within an hour.
If you make it to six weeks breastfeeding you've done the hardest stretch, you might find it's easier just to keep breastfeeding. Certainly easier in middle of night not having to faff around with sterilising and making up bottles. But obviously that's your choice!
Most formulas are the same (other than the specialist soya/anti reflux ones etc) Yes, sadly it's expensive. Feeding solely on the ready made ones is prohibitively expensive but they're good for when you're out.
I agree with pass about easier to bf in the night.
Can I just add though that not all formulas are the same. We gave DD a formala bottle at night made from sma powder and 2 bottles later she was totally constipated despite a load of breast milk during the day. It would seem that there is a thinner formula (think I read it was aptimil) medium one and sma...the thickest.
Ignore the 7ml malarkey, their tummies are about the size if their hands. If you were ff from the get go, early feeds would be about 60/90 ml or whatever your baby wanted.
With powder it's one scoop per ounce of water. So if you only want an ounce (about 30ml) you only use one scoop. It's unlikely you'll ever make up less than 2 ounces.
Ready to feed formula is convenient but considerably more expensive to use than powder.
Once opened a small 200ml bottle can be kept in the fridge for up to 24 hours but if you're only using formula will only really last three feeds max to begin with and a baby grows fewer feeds obviously. Mixed feeding it will of course last longer.
All formula is the same, for all the glossy advertising they do. (Obv stupid follow on milk advertising not stage 1).
We used SMA tins. I only worked in oz so I have no idea on mls but my newborn would have 3oz bottles (sometimes drinking all, sometimes only 2oz) roughly every three hours. For the first few weeks,months, a tin would last about a week.
I never used cartons or ready made bottles aa they work out pricier per feed. I can see why people do though! I will buy a box of those tiny teated bottles ready made up for the hospital but will revert to powdered when I get home.
I used aptimal, no reason I picked it, used it in the hospital for a top up while bf so continued when I had to stop bf.
If you ff feed from the beginning, you can start on 30mls- 1 scoop. Then you put it up as the baby wants more. Anything up to 90mls you can make up and cool down quite fast under cold running water, when you are using more than that it does take longer to cool.
Ready made cartons are great at night or when you are out and about, but are expensive.
I found I used a tub of formula a week so £10, roughly 6 feeds a day,where as 1 ready made carton is 1 feed at 70p a bottle.
Just read above about 90mls for a newborn, I was mix feeding on demand at the beginning with bf, ebm, and formula. Due to mastitis and cracked nipples. So ff babies presumable take more if its just formula.
Babies are so small to begin with that you'll probably find the powder goes off before you get through a tub to start with (you have to bin it once it's been open a while). The ready made cartons are best to start with, and then you can switch to tubs as your baby increases their intake.
I used HIPP Organic for DC1, it's actually one of the cheaper formulas and I liked that it was organic too. BF is going like a dream this time and having done both, this is definitely less faff, but DC2 did have a small top-up in her earliest days while my milk came in, and she took the HIPP without any problems. Good luck!
Brill thanks for you advice everyone.
I might just get a few of the ready made bottles for use if I can't BF and then buy some powder if I need it x
we tried SMA and our DD didn't like it and wouldn't take it, we then tried aptamil, on the advice of MW/HW, and she seemed fine with it. we used the little cartons of ready made to begin with as it was easier for us and we were only using them as a top up (DD lost quite a lot of weight over concurrent weeks as I wasn't producing enough milk) I then moved completely to FF instead of trying to BF as it wasn't working for me.
I started FF my DS around 3 months, one tub didn't quite last us a full week so I used to buy 2 tubs on payday then one each week and it worked out about right. £10 a tub now (it was less then, about £7 I think) so £60ish a month. The ready mixed did one full feed, so there's no way I'd have wanted to only use those, think they were 50p each but I've noticed they are more now, about 75p? 4/5 feeds a day, so £110ish a month?
I've only breast fed this time, the first few weeks were definitely the hardest. From about week 4 it got a bit easier, week 8 it suddenly really clicked and now at 18 weeks it's fab, soooo much easier than faffing with bottles!
DS refused to breastfeed so we were on formula by day 2. According to my midwife, Aptimil is considered to be closest to breast milk. You can buy little starter boxes from Tesco that have lots of tiny bottles of ready-made stuff, which we used for the first few days. Powdered formula is by far the cheapest way to go but it took us a few days to get out heads round the sterilise routine, so we didn't use it immediately. Good luck!
The midwife should NOT have told you that Aptamil is closest to breastmilk. Formula is tightly regulated and all formulas are pretty much the same. Just choose the one they sell at the shop nearest you ;)
It's infuriating that the aptamil myth is still doing the rounds, and that your MW has swallowed their claims. As pp have said, the composition of formula is tightly controlled by law.
I also wanted to bf, but bought formula and bottles just in case. Luckily because of my milk not coming in for 5 days and then ds refusing breast he was a ff baby. I bought cow and gate from a recommendation from family, but also bought some premade for outings and odd times at night. The premade lasts 24hrs in the fridge. I would recommend making up one extra oz than needs, just incase. Also i too got told the aptimal myth, something like its sweeter than other brands. But baby will tell you what they prefer, friends ds went through several brands before being happy! No harm in buying the premade, if they are happy then fork out for the powder
I detest Aptamil. They lied in their advertising and by the time they were forced to stop by the regulator the myth was fully embedded.
I bottle fed my first two dc, they were on SMA gold and went through 1 large tin a week! When I was expecting dc3 I saw the price and thought sod that I will really persevere with breast feeding and it's worked, so much cheaper and easier too
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