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toxoplasmosis - anxiety - please help

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Bluebella Sun 31-Mar-13 11:28:45

hi this is my second pregnancy and i had severe anxiety about health in my first preg and its starting to come back.

Please can i describe a situation to you.

My other half cleared my absolute disgrace of a garden a few days ago. I KNOW there would have been cat poo in the garden. there was so much rubbish in the garden so i was happy for him to clear it. I was anxious about the cat poo but thought had it under control.

He picked up various junk from with in the garden and loaded up a van next to back gate. Once finished he did come through house but took shoes off and went straight out front door.

He did wash hands but only with antibacterial gel.

He then got in van to take to tip but i had to follow as he had to take van back to rental place and i had to take him back.

When we got to tip they wouldnt allow a van to come in. We were really short on time it was 4pm and van had to be back in depot at 5pm.

I begged the worker at the tip to let him in but he wouldnt. so only option we had was to put the stuff in my car boot and do several trips through the tip.

I didnt touch any of it. My other half loaded it in my boot and unloaded. Once done he used anti bac gel again.

Then he had to drop van back and had to come in my car :-( i didnt let him touch anything.

Then i dropped him back at his car and he went home ( dont live together yet).

So.......the next day i was freaking about the rubbish having been in my boot- my sister hoovered and steam cleaned my boot and entire car and i through away the car matt my other half woukd have put his feet on.

But my concerns are:

1) my oh got toxo on his hands which the gel hasnt removed and has it all over his own car steering wheel and now i am too terrified for him to touch me without washing hands.

2) my boot has got toxo in it - would the steam cleaning have killed any toxo?! I had to put a tv stand in my boot today and bring in house and now i am so worried i have brought toxo into my bedroom.

I really am so scared and i am worried about my OHs shoes that he wore in the garden. I told him to clean them but i dont know if he has or not. He thinks i am being ridiculous.

Please help to calm me down, if you think i am overeacting. i cant stand this feeling of panic and worry :-(

HazleNutt Sun 07-Apr-13 15:12:59

Honestly no, I would not worry about such situations. I have 3 actual cats walking all over and sleeping in my bed, I do gardening and don't have toxo - it would be a miracle if you managed to get it from the bottom of someone's shoes.

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 15:26:56

Thank you. I just cannot shake this feeling of being terrified of mud and dirt now in case it has toxo in it. It's really getting too much for me, I feel like I am constantly stratigically thinking about what I have to clean before touching, where I have to walk, etc.. this is crazy.

So you don't think I should be worried about going into my OH's flat, bearing in mind he may have worn the shoes that he was in the garden with (He did wipe them over but not sure how thoroughly).

While he said he didn't step on any cat pooh, I worry that its disintergrated and on the stones on which he was walking etc....x

catsdogsandbabies Sun 07-Apr-13 15:37:46

But bluebell you need to ingest the oocysts so even if the flat was a risk (which it isn't in my opinion) you are I assume given your anxiety washing hands and cooking food well.
So facts:
Very few cat poos will have active (infectious) toxo oocysts in them
You need to eat quite a few of them
Even then infection is far from guaranteed

Have you asked to be tested? If you were already exposed and therefore immune would your mind be at rest?

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 15:44:00

My next Appt with M/W is 1st May, I may ask to be tested then.

I was tested 5 years or so ago and it showed that I was not immune.

Yes; I am washing my hands all the time, they are very sore and dry :-(

I wish he'd never ever done the garden, what a stupid idea it was.

OK so I need to keep telling myself; there was no toxo in that garden and there is no toxo on the bottom of my OH's shoes.... Its so hard.

I just want to crawl into my bed and stay there till July :-(

catsdogsandbabies Sun 07-Apr-13 15:47:13

Could you make appt to see gp sooner? Explain your anxiety?

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 15:50:13

but is it just my anxiety or do you think I could have got it, or will catch it if I go to my OH's flat? I did mention to midwife on phone the other day and she gave me a leaflet for an NHS service called 'Lift', perhaps I will give them a call tomorrow.

mum1979100 Sun 07-Apr-13 15:56:55

I totally get where you are coming from. But spuds like you have been very cautious. I really think you'll be fine. I had these worries too. I ate Parma ham without thinking in my first pregnancy and persuaded the doc to do a test, which showed I was not exposed to toxo. Then in my second pregnany my toddler picked up cat poo in the garden with a stick and I grabbed it off him. Then ran him into house to wash his hands and as he waved stick around it touched my lip- you can imagine my worry. Again persuaded do to test and came back negative. So I think it's so not as easy to catch from cat poo as you think.

WipsGlitter Sun 07-Apr-13 16:03:06

No, most people would not be worrying about this to the level you are. I think you need to see your GP and see about some more counselling for health anxiety.

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 16:05:03

OMG Mum197100 that scenario with your toddler sounds horrific!!!

OK, so I am hoping that there was no toxo where my other half stepped on in the garden. He said he kept to the 'Stepping stones' rather than the gravel, but I can't be sure.

But if there was, what do you think about his shoes, and the possibility of bringing toxo into the house on his shoes...

I keep thinking, OK, I was tested when I was 25yrs, and I was negative, so I didn't pick it up in 25 would I really have got it now?!

I think if I get tested again perhaps I'll feel better about this.

I feel like I can cope in my own house, but I am very worried about OH's flat being contaminated :-/

Not seeing him for the next four months, seems a little drastic, but thats how I feel! lol.

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 16:06:41

Thanks WipsGlitter. I will, I really will, but in my mind I keep thinking.... but what about if I have been infected - there's a possibility right? Oh dear oh dear oh dear, I swore to myself I wouldn't panic in this pregnancy, but seems always to be a situation where I feel I have compromised my saftey.

lucybrad Sun 07-Apr-13 16:25:47

You sound like me with my fear of being sick. I get like that, and no rational thought will help. I call it an episode, and looking back I can see where I have had these episodes and that I was being totally unreasonable, but at the time I can't see it. Your not going to get it. Take deep breaths, and when you start thinking about it make a positive effort to think about something nice instead.

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 16:26:53

Would a Dettol Wet wip rubbed all over the shoes have gotten off any toxo Oocysts do you think?

Right I HAVE to stop worrying about this! Its driving me insane.

But thank you for replying, believe it or not it does help.

I always wanted to try for a little girl (Having another boy now), but now I don't think I could cope with another pregnancy!! :'-(


Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 16:30:19

Thank you Lucy xx I just want to have a happy healthy content baby, as we all pray for. I can't stop worrying, and then I worry about the stress I am casuing the baby worrying! Its a vicious circle.

mum1979100 Sun 07-Apr-13 17:00:05

I would think ifyou are going to worry about toxo being in the flat / on peoples shoes, after you have done a clean up, then you are basically saying toxo could be absolutely anywhere. That's supposed to make you feel better not worse - hopefully! What I mean is your risk can't be any higher than the average regnant lady. People walk in gardens/mud all the time and come inside buildings. Then they get hoovered and nobody worries any more.

Bluebella Sun 07-Apr-13 17:11:20

That's true. But the reason I think he has contaminated shoes is because he was in my back garden which I know has been used as the local kitty litter garden over the years, I haven't touched the garden. He was just removing rubbish from it. I so wish I had told him to wear old shoes. What a stupid mistake....

I am going to try and forget about it. I am still obviously going to be cautious with hygeine etc... as I would be, like washing hands, etc...

But I am going to try and let go of the thought that OH's flat is contaminated, and going to try hard to relax about this and get it out of my mind.


mum1979100 Sun 07-Apr-13 18:29:39

Good luck and best wishes for the rest of your pregnancy bluebella. You remind me of me when I was pregnant! I'm sure it will be fine. The chance of you coming into contact with toxo must be so slim. It's ashame that the toxo tests can't tell you how recently you were infected. Getting tested could end up worrying you more. Hope all goes well for you.

orolig Wed 12-Jun-13 08:08:32

I'm 26 weeks pregnant and have had some similar toxoplasma anxieties. It is very tiring, I know I'm being irrational but it's so hard to stop worrying. I was wondering how you're doing now Bluebella? I hope all is well.

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