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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE Wed 09-Jan-13 18:32:37

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

wavesandsmiles Wed 20-Feb-13 09:15:44

I have had chicken pox, and have let the consultant and midwives know, they aren't worried since I've had it.

Still on a drip, still being sick. Todays chap described it as my lifeline. Whilst I'm in hospital retching and vomiting the drip is keeping me in balance as the fluid is replaced. I've been told that basically none of the anti emetics will be amazing, so unless the HG goes away of its own accord this looks set to be my second home for now.

I'll be home once my new medication arrives, and see how I go, although I'll have a few hours off the drip here first. Could be today, could be tomorrow. Heard the baby's heartbeat last night which was really good, I feel so sick and look so UNpregnant still, it reminded me why I am sick and that it will all be worth it come July!

fl0b0t Wed 20-Feb-13 10:30:16

waves yay for heartbeat and boo for feeling rubbish sad

After a day of work yest I was totally wiped out and couldn't really eat dinner. Today started with lord of vomiting and now cancelled trains and stuff so still not very cheerful. Struggling with train smells and smokers and generally stinky people.

hayleybootes Wed 20-Feb-13 11:05:53

Waves You are in the right place!! I have made a not of the meds and will find out if i've had them before. They do sound like the ones I was on in my last pg. When I was in hospital all the time they used to put me in a room alone due to migraines. I could never watch those stupid tvs they had as they's really hurt my head, so I would lay there for hours staring at a ticking clock and I even got to the point where I was so down I refused all visitors for days as every single time someone came they looked at me as if i was about to die or said 'oh my god, are you ok, you look awful' I decided I didn't need it so I just lay there waiting for it to be over, I lay there for weeks once refusing to move. Depressing. I hope you are in a ward with lots of others as although other peoples snoring is really irritating, you can make some really good friends in there and you can help each other regardless of what's wrong. I always felt like a fraud in there, the other patients would look at me and you could see them thinking 'why are you in here?' I never looked pregnant!! lol. Make sure you get everyone to bring you lots of magazines and try and stay as positive as you can and you'll be out in no time. The last time to get out of hospital I actually poured some water from the tap into my urine for when they checked my ketones lol, they sent me home thinking i was better....... more fool me..... I was back that night...... as strange as it sounds I do miss that stresses other than the HG, no worries about childcare or work or anything else, you can only think about yourself and getting better. It will do you the world of good to have a rest smile


Donx Wed 20-Feb-13 12:47:47

Hi all I'm new to mumsnet . I suffered from HG with my 2 daughters 8 and 6 now pregnant again and I'm currently in a hospital bed sad x

wavesandsmiles Wed 20-Feb-13 17:26:14

Hi donx I'm sending empathy to you from my hospital bed. I had HG with DD who is 7, and just general nausea and vomiting with DS who is nearly 9. Hope you are being well looked after!

I'm in a side room as most people on the ward have already had their babies, so it is a bit boring, but mainly I'm just trying to sleep and working my way through a supply of cardboard sick bowls! No tv as it makes me feel sicker and not inclined to read which is weird for me as usually I am a total book worm. Hoping to turn a corner soon, I want to get back home and get back to work.

LucindaE Wed 20-Feb-13 18:32:10

Donx Welcome, to the Thread Nobody Wants to Need and to Mumsnet. It has kicked in badly, and I hope you get some meds that work. How long along are you?
WavesOh no, to still being sick, even on IV ondansetron. I am keeping my fingers that these meds will help, and that it will turn the corner soon. It must be dull - but if you are being sick you don't want an audience. Can you bear listening to the radio? At least you can close your eyes for that. What do they say about the constant vomiting, do they hope it'll ease off? Yours seems such a bad case I wonder if they'd think in terms of those home IV things that they have in the US?
Daren't offer either cyber hugs - gentle pats.
Hayley How are things? Flo? Belle? LittleMise Flower How are the meds working?
We haven't heard from Crikee or Room or Gatorade or others in a while.

hayleybootes Wed 20-Feb-13 20:11:51

Hi Lucinda I'm good thank you, a little scared to say i'm really well as i could turn a corner... saw MW today for the first time and he was shocked that I looked so well, he was also shocked at how much weight i'd put on, but i've been purposely eating everything over the past 4 weeks just incase the HG set in. He asked if this baby had a different father to my first two as apparently this hugely changes the HG, but I said no, I have just had the few odd days that have been bad but have been coping. I'm still only 6+4 though so ANYTHING can happen yet.
Waves feel better soon thanks


LittleMissSnowShine Wed 20-Feb-13 20:16:37

Evening all! Was away overnight with DH last night for my birthday - yesterday was pretty much ok in terms of sickness and tiredness etc. Then this morning I woke up in hotel at half 4 and couldn't for the love of god get back to sleep, chesty cough wasn't helping at all! Anyway I got up and had a cup of tea but I was kicking myself cos I'd forgotten to bring cereal bars to nibble on.

Cut forward a few hours and having breakfast with DH. Had French toast, yogurt and tea. Ten mins later I'm up in our room throwing it allll back up again. Groan! But I could live with that, had rich food yesterday, out of routine, v early start etc. Only thing that was concerning though was that towards end of purging my stomach (the joys of hg!) the vomit was bright red. Now if I'd had Ribena or something fair enough but I hadn't had nothing red and now my throat feels v sore so have a suspicion it was blood. Ack!! Never had that before!!

Have appt with midwife on fri tho o was going to wait and bring it up then but is it a bad idea to wait? It hasn't happened again today or anything so might hopefully be just a nasty one off.... Advice much appreciated tho!!! thanks

hayleybootes Wed 20-Feb-13 22:40:56

LittleMiss you should get an app with your GP tomorrow. Better to be safe than sorry!! So glad you're feeling a lot better....I hope you keep having better days xx

LittleMissSnowShine Thu 21-Feb-13 08:11:07

Cant help but wonder if pink.raspberry yogurt plus orange juice maybe turned red tho and then i'll feel stupid lol this pregnancy business is just a barrel of laughs isn't it!?

LucindaE Thu 21-Feb-13 09:19:06

Littlemiss I so agree with others, better get it checked just in case, though I think it its read it's generally from the throat and the violence of the retching, while if it's brown it is definitely from the stomach, but you can't be sure. Sounds horrible.
Hayley I am so delighted that there is room for 'cautious optimism'! Keeping fingers crossed.
Waves and Donx You poor things, how are things? Waves Has the puking stopped? What do the specialists say about it, as you must be exhausted even if they are putting in as much liquid as comes up again?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

wavesandsmiles Thu 21-Feb-13 14:24:37

Hello, hope people are coping ok. littlemiss did you get to the GP?

I've just got home, ketones back down thankfully. Unfortunately it looks like medication is having a limited effect so whilst I am home now, the new plan is for me to go back to hospital as and when ketones get to 3+ or higher for further admissions and IV fluids. As things are not easing and I am now 17+3, the consultant seems to think this is likely to carry on through my pregnancy. All I am to focus on is trying to keep sips of fluids down and the suggestion now is warm flat coke. Bleurgh. At least I know I don't have to fight to keep food down, although I am aware that this means I will not exactly be full of energy.

I'm still hopeful that this will pass before July (or August if the baby decides to stay put longer than it should), but trying to be a bit realistic too.

LucindaE Thu 21-Feb-13 14:39:41

Waves Oh no, for what the doctor says! But some people do get a lot better after twenty weeks. NitNat had it for long after that, but not as badly as you, oh dear, you are suffering horribly, I think an equal first worst case we've had on here. That is not exactly comforting news. Kalidasa was admitted three or four times and was still being sick despite meds throughout except for a four week gap, but she did become able to eat at some point in the second tri, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed it may work for you. I do feel for you, would love to be able to do more than send cyber sympathy - I found flat coke helpful, too, and sips of warm water for some reason, ice lolies, weirdly, Lucozade, though many say it's too burny, and Ironbru left to go flat too (I used to know a Scotsman who swore by it for hangovers and Hyperemesis is like one long hangover). Is ice cream bearable? Some people find that the only thing...or jelly. None of those things struck me as being horrible on the way up again.
I was massively helped by Acupunture (I was in a state when I staggered there, it would have been IV fluids and meds for me if it hadn't stopped it enough for me to keep fluids down within hours) but it doesn't seem to have helped many people the way it did me and it is so expensive, it ate up my savings.
Leaves, clucking in dismay.

LucindaE Thu 21-Feb-13 14:41:34

Waves Just thought, an addition to former post - I wonder they can't offer home IV?

fl0b0t Thu 21-Feb-13 15:42:37

Hi all, hope you're ok smile

I'm tired and sick. Nothing new.... X

RoomForALittleOne Thu 21-Feb-13 22:53:28

Hi All. I'm 20 weeks today and still on ondansetron. I'm toying with the idea of trying to come off of it again. I think I'll just end up throwing up constantly but I'm fed up of the constipation! I'm very glad that I at least manage well with the ondansetron. Waves, I'm hoping that you at least improve and stay out of hospital. Do you think that there is anything more that could/should be done for you?

LucindaE Fri 22-Feb-13 09:37:59

Flo It is so wearisome, hugs.
Room The jelly suppositories didn't do a lot for you, oh dear. Some people do find the constipation so bad that at some point in the second tri, if the sickness is relatively managable, they'd rather have that of the two ills. I am sure Kalidasa won't mind me saying that they didn't work for her, either, and she had to get some home bowel flushing out thing on the internet. If you do come off the meds, everyone seems to say, do it gradually, as you don't want to end up dramatically ill again.
Waves How are things going? Domx I hope out of hospital?
Wispa I hope no more being sick through the night?
Belle How is moving going?
Reebok Are you managing OK, back at work? Remember you said you hoped you'd have improved by the time the snowdrops were out? I hope the improvment continues.
*Littlemiss@? Everyone?

kalidasa Fri 22-Feb-13 10:13:27

waves have they spoken to you about food replacement drinks? I was prescribed these in hospital because In the end I had constant high ketones even after days on a drip from the starvation. They weren't great and I did throw them up like everything else but they are easier to absorb than food and they helped keep me out of hospital after the last admission. You also feel a tiny bit better when you are not in a state of starvation.

Reebok Fri 22-Feb-13 14:11:19

Room, I agree with Lucinda...come off the meds gradually. That's the only way i managed to come off cyclizine and metroclopramide. Still on ranitidine unfortunately though. Glad you feel ok while on them and are coping.

Lucinda I'm doing much better thanks. Wouldn't say I'm 100% just yet as there are times like last night where I feel as sick as a dog but I've learnt to cope. Blasted migraines seem to have hit more often though which makes me nauseous.

Sorry to hear so many of you are feeling so rotten but remember, it will end soon enough. Hang in there ladies x

BelleEtLaBaby Fri 22-Feb-13 14:25:16

Hi all. All moved in, although I haven't really done anything. Been to the hospital today for my scan: threw up like mad on the way (9:00am appointments! Who thought that was a good idea?!) but it was so great to see the baby and a really good pick me up. All is well with the baby too: after the terrifying nuchal results with ds1 and the ensuing few weeks of fear and not knowing, I am so relieved.

My appetite seems to be improving - I'm still having strong aversions to all kinds of things, but this lunchtime I actually felt hungry for the first time in weeks. I've just had some bacon and eggs and they tasted lovely for the first time in ages! I am also really craving Stilton, um bongo juice (can you even buy that anymore?) and fresh fish, particularly mackerel. Weird, but I'm so pleased to be starting to feel better. I'm going to take 2 more weeks off work, then go back for 2 weeks then its Easter. I am also going to have my vitamin levels tested before I go back, and discuss light duties with my manager before I return. Then only the last full term to do before annual leave then maternity! How is that possible?!?

Hope you are all doing ok. Waves I had the nutrition drinks when in hospital with a facial paralysis earlier this year: they're called fortisip. They come in juice or milk types, and a whole bunch of flavours. They are really good: I couldn't eat at all for two weeks and they stopped me losing any more weight. Hope you're doing ok and things with your H are not too stressful.

kalidasa Fri 22-Feb-13 16:12:06

Mine were called Ensure 4-cal. There are other kinds of ensure but I think the "4-cal" (strongest) ones are perhaps only available in hospital - they are 400 cals in every 200 ml so if you could get three down you a day you could get away without consuming anything else. To be honest after a couple of weeks I couldn't face them any more as I'd thrown them up so often that the smell/texture made me heave but they were really useful for that short while and helped to stabilise me.

wispa31 Fri 22-Feb-13 16:49:18

afternoon ladies
just back from hospital. was admitted on tues after going to the docs with a sample of wee. i had 3+ ketones in so she told me to get up to the hospital but i went to a&e so had to wait a couple of hours to get seen to as it was busy then taken up to the gynae ward (docs there run betw maternity unit and gynae). that was at half 3 or so and it was 7.50pm before i got seen by a doc and told i was being admitted. felt like utter shite, nothing to eat since sun night and really dehydrated. when they tested my wee in a&e there was 4+ ketones.
in the end i was given 6 litres of iv fluids over the 3 nights i was in and am feeling much better now, feeling a bit sick now but am able to eat and drink alot better.
the doc gave me a scan aswell to check baby was ok so got to see the baby for first time! smile was awesome! hope everyone feeling a little better today too!

LucindaE Fri 22-Feb-13 19:17:11

Wispa Poor you, I wonder why they didn't give you IV when waiting if you had to wait that length of time, how awful. I hope you didn't have to sit with a bowl? I'm so glad scan was a tiny bit of compensation. What meds are you on now?
Kali Lovely to hear from you, great advice to waves about ensure and so nice of you to encourage others, and Reebok same for you, and sad about migraines, they are unbelievably horrible.
Belle I'm glad the scan cheered you up after a nasty start to the day. It must be such a relief to be in your own home, anyway, where the words 'ginger' and 'biscuit' are banned on pain of death.
Donx Are you out of hospital yet?
wavesandsmiles is very quiet, I do hope she is relatively OK, and not horribly sick.
Flo and Room and Littlemiss andFlowery and All I hope coping.

wispa31 Fri 22-Feb-13 21:49:17

there was a long wait for the early pregnancy clinic due to maternity ward being super busy with sickness and the usual business of babies being born! had to wait in a wee pokey waiting room which got very warm and was very uncomfortable. i was surprised myself i didnt get put on a drip straight away. the gynae doc couldnt believe they hadnt even taken my blood! the a&e triage nurse was going to send me home!! she told me there was a long wait and that seeing as i had kept down the water and juice they gave me they were happy to let me go, even though she said there were ketones in my urine!?! or else if i didnt mind the wait i could hang on to be checked. im soo glad i insisted on staying!
the doc who scanned me and admitted me changed my meds to cyclizine as it was available as injection if i was unable to keep anything down and they gave me some for coming home.
hopefully i will not need to go in again, though it was nice to lounge about in my jammys and have my meals brought to me! :D :D

RoomForALittleOne Sat 23-Feb-13 07:39:54

Wisps, I had a fairly similar experience although I was treated better in A&E before waiting 7 hours in a waiting room (hooked up to a drip) for my bed on a gynae ward. In the end, the nurses took over and told the doctor not to be so silly as I wasn't going to clear 4+ of ketones in an hour!

There is no way I'm going to come off of the ondansetron yet sad I really thought that at 20 weeks I could have a normal pregnancy sad I don't need much and I'm not being sick as long as I have enough ondansetron so I'm much better than I was. But I can't remember what it's like to not feel sick.

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