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How will the abolition of mums and dads effect us and our babies?

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kfca Sun 02-Dec-12 19:43:17

Does anyone else mind not being recognised as the mother of their baby, if the law changes, maybe in the new year, with the marriage changes?
Will mumsnet have to rename itself as LegalParent_A_net?

MrsDeVere Tue 04-Dec-12 07:35:42

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Devora Tue 04-Dec-12 00:14:58

Spero's spot-on, though, when she talks about how the equal civil marriage debate exposes how some people really do feel that their marriage will be downgraded by it, because the fact that they are married is one of the few places where they can feel 'better' than other people.

Lilka Mon 03-Dec-12 23:50:14

My wonderful comment (which wasn't at all angrily thumped out without thinking) got deleted! Oh well

Let me rephrase thoughtfully - It's so awful that OP feels so dreadfully sad about being a parent, and feels reduced, especially to the level of an adoptive parent. Please excuse me from this thread for just a minute, while I go and fetch the world's smallest violin

I love being Parent A, A Parent

Heck, I'm not only Parent A, I'm B, C, D, X, AA, Infinity. I'm the ONLY Parent in this house. So I should get to be everything at once, I think

chipmonkey Mon 03-Dec-12 23:49:16

Oh no, adoptive parents are heroes dontcha know? It's why I hang around outside MrsDeVere's house waiting to get her autograph.

Devora Mon 03-Dec-12 23:45:24

Aw, thanks LadyIsabella. I think we're a pretty thick-skinned bunch, actually. Just tiger-like when someone starts dissing our kids smile

LadyIsabellaWrotham Mon 03-Dec-12 23:32:47

This thread has brightened my day considerably. Lots of lovely MNers on top form, LalaGabby's contender for Post Of The Week, right at the top. And the realisation that if the anti-gay marriage mob are so desperate that they have to resort to this load of old bollocks then they are really truly screwed.

(So sorry that the adoptive parents got upset along the way though - you do know that the OP is in a minority of one though, don't you? Here, at least.)

SledYuleCated Mon 03-Dec-12 23:08:37

I don't know, but should I worry? I'm worrying. I'm not even Legal Parent A. I'm just A. A what? A giraffe? A poke in the eye?

Devora Mon 03-Dec-12 22:56:24

Oh, waaaaay below, surely.

A woman who doesn't breed? What's the point of that, exactly? shock

breatheslowly Mon 03-Dec-12 22:52:52

SledYuleCated - perhaps the OP could clarify whether non-parents rate above or below gay and adoptive parents on the OP's hierarchy of heroism.

Devora Mon 03-Dec-12 22:44:49

Sied - nah, I think OP's construction is that adoptive parenting isn't REAL parenting - it's just unpaid FT childminding of a kid you have no vested interest in. Anyone who took that on would have to be a bit of a hero, right?

Chip - I think the research you want is by Susan Golombok, Cambridge University.

SledYuleCated Mon 03-Dec-12 21:18:24

Hang on, I'm not even a parent...


HoneyDragon Mon 03-Dec-12 17:33:40

I'd deffo be the illegal parent grin

GalaxyDisaster - "isn't 'Our Father' really just linguistic. Don't Christians believe that God transcends gender? Or am I getting muddled."

I'm pretty sure the CofE just established beyond all reasonable doubt that God does, in fact, have a penis. wink
They're still working on the great boxers/briefs schism, though.

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 03-Dec-12 17:20:04

Oh, I agree, the others are a lot better!

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 17:14:42

Actually Selim, that's not a bad idea. Legal parent lion and legal parent tiger could come with a third option of legal parent bear.

Oh my!

Selim Mon 03-Dec-12 17:11:28

Legal parent circle and legal parent square

Legal parent jupiter and legal parent saturn

Legal parent lion and legal parent tiger.

and so on.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 17:11:21

In my primary school we were identified by animal groups. I could live with Legal Parent Panda (better than Legal Parent Red and Legal Parent Yellow. What on earth were you thinking Empress?).

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly Mon 03-Dec-12 17:05:49


smiley faces?

Selim Mon 03-Dec-12 17:04:52

I would disagree that X is oppressed. It maybe underused but it is mystery, the unknown, God and self all rolled into one. It is the most exalted letter. It even has its own chromosome.

I think the only solution is to adopt the system used in primary schools to differentiate work.

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 16:38:12

Because it's the alpha letter, and let's face reality here, do you want to be in the A-team or the B-team? Although personally I always feel a strong affinity with X, as the minority and most oppressed letter.

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly Mon 03-Dec-12 16:25:26

But why should the letter A have such status?

That discriminates against the whole of the rest of the alphabet. Are you suggesting A is better than B?

EmpressOfTheNorthPole Mon 03-Dec-12 16:22:24

How about Legal Parent Red and Legal Parent Yellow?

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda Mon 03-Dec-12 16:15:03

I think it's disgraceful to use Legal Parent A and Legal Parent B. It's so discriminatory against Legal Parent B who will always come second to Legal Parent A. This is not equality. Everyone should be Legal Parent A.

Selim Mon 03-Dec-12 15:58:09

Our legal parent B, who art in heaven...

Hail Mary, legal parent A of God...

Wel it will take some getting used to but they changed the whole mass last year and it didn't take that long to be off book again so I imagine we'll cope.

mrsd277 Mon 03-Dec-12 15:47:02

I'm loving this thread. It reaffirms my believe in humanity. OP aside.

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