I NEED Pâté!

[Mylittlepuds]

That is all.

[GoldPlatedNineDoors]

I ordered pate as my starter on my wedding day then got pg, so was twelve weeks on the day - I still ate the Pate but that was the only time.

I only avoided pate and prawns during pg....not really sure why!

[Dillydollydaydream]

Mmm I have a hankering for liver & bacon casserole with mashed potato but that's not allowed - the liver part anyway.

[NickNacks]

Have some then.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Me too!! I'm making dp bring some into hospital for my post birth toast. I had wondered if I could risk it now I'm 33 weeks but online consensus seems to be no

[reikizen]

One portion of liver will do no harm at all! Christ, how much vitamin A do you think is in it??

[StuckInTheFensAwayFromHome]

Anyone else thinking about foods because your supposed to avoid them? I don't think I've eaten pâté for at least a year but I look at it longingly in the supermarket and this thread has me thinking... Mmm pâté on toast!!! Want some now!

[Mylittlepuds]

Oh God I just need some - smeared thick on toast. DH has had it for a starter today and I nabbed a bite, but that doesn't count...

I've read online that it's cos of possible listeria not Vit A. Otherwise I'd have some :-(

Have eaten all seafood this time, and runny eggs...

[Nicky1306]

I don't avoid it because of the vitamin A. It's the listeria aspect, rather not put bubs through that for the sake of some pâté on toast.........mmmm pâté lol x x

[stowsettler]

I had some the other day. It was very nice. I'm still here and still pregnant.

[LeBFG]

Eat some. Vit A is fine (as long as you don't eat pots of the stuff) and listeria is only when you buy at the deli. The stuff in packets/pots is fine. I've been stuffing foie gras this pregnancy - yum. Only, I'm not immune to toxo so big no-no to charcuterie, which I love...

[Quodlibet]

I want a nice pint of ale. Or maybe three.

[Mylittlepuds]

LeBFG - is this true?! How do you know this? I have a pot of Marksies' finest in the fridge...Oh God my mouth is watering.

[GrandPoohBah]

Have a look at the incidences of reported listeria cases, and what they were caused by. And then make up your mind how much of a risk a bit of pâté is

Fwiw, I avoided completely until 20wks because the big risk from fat soluble vit A is that it could cause problems with organ formation in the foetus. Since then I have eaten pâté maybe three or four times; once at a wedding and a couple of pots of tesco's finest chicken liver parfait. It was delicious.

Balls to Christmas dinner, baby is due on the 30th nov - I'm eating nothing but pâté for the whole of December

[OverlyWordyHurdyGurdy]

Why not make some? And eat fresh.

My interpretation of the evidence is that studies showing harm from high levels of vitamin A were based on giving the synthetic version in isolation. I think it's ridiculous to extrapolate from that harm from Vit A consumed as part of a whole food, especially given that traditional diets contain much higher levels than modern diets, and the kind of birth defect shown by studies is very rare.

But then, I take raw cod liver oil, and did so in my last pregnancy as well.

[Purplemonster]

Quod - can't help you with ale but if lager will do try Becks Blue non alcoholic lager. It doesn't quite taste like the real thing as it has a bit of an after taste but I find if I chuck some lemonade in it it tastes like lager shandy and that's keeping me quiet for now. The non alcoholic wine I bought was vile though.

[Littlemissimpatient]

Yes alco free wine is vile stuff.
I really really want some gooey smelly goats cheese with a very large glass of red wine.

[OverlyWordyHurdyGurdy]

Meh, a pint's overdoing it, but a third won't hurt.

[GeordieCherry]

A rare steak topped with Roquefort & a large glass of red...

[Purplemonster]

I can't believe they expect us to ruin beef. Overcooked steak is a travesty.

[confuddledDOTcom]

Everything is OK in moderation! If you fancy something, have it. You'll only end up driving yourself around the bend if you ban things rather than not think too much about it because it's allowed.

BTW runny eggs is American, we're "allowed" them because our eggs are laid by lions... or something...

[confuddledDOTcom]

Oh and that includes alcohol. 1-2 units occasionally is fine, binge drinking is bad.

[LauraSmurf]

BTW my midwife told me less than a year ago that all meat needs to be well cooked EXCEPT GOOD STEAK! Burgers etc still
must be, but steak can be anything but blue!!

Twas my saviour!

[GrandPoohBah]

The piece of paper with guidelines about food I got from my midwife says that I'm allowed rare steak.

I'm sure that it's out of date but I am holding onto it and waving it at ANYONE who challenges my right to eat my steak bloody. So there

Uk eggs = lion stamped = birds inoculated against salmonella. I've also been eating dippy eggs.

I prefer the idea that they were laid by lions though!

[confuddledDOTcom]

I thought being laid by lions was a better description of the difference between our eggs

I'm not sure why it's so ingrained into Brits that we can't have runny eggs when it's American guidelines - maybe too many American websites and forums being visited?

[Quodlibet]

In America you can buy pre-beaten eggs in tetra-pack cartons . Maybe that's why - you could never guarantee that your runny scrambled eggs hadn't come out of one of those that had been sitting around open on a worksurface too long, rather than out of a lion-stamped shell.