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how much notice to do pay to what you can and can't eat guidelines?

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carriedababi Mon 24-Oct-11 18:55:53

went out for a meal with dh and dd on sat night to celebrate pregnancy.
smile

i do have one glass of lemonade spirtzer, so had a bit of wine in it.

also made the choice ot eat a prawn toast and butterfly king prawn, only one little tiny bit of each.

then realised the chicken satay had [peanuts on it]

so on my first night of know broke 3 rules, 1 unwittingly the satay

anyway we've been goingto this restaurant regulary for 10 years and have never been ill ever asfetr going there.

and i can't really see how half a glass of ine can be bad for you.
yet i did feel quite guilty

we had the food shooping from sainsburys sun am, and i didnt eat the prawns dh on sun as there those precooked things

anyway how much notice do you take to the guidelines?

TheRealMBJ Mon 24-Oct-11 19:00:32

I look at the reasons behind the 'ban' and the evidence and then decide for myself.

(I am 40+6 with DC2)

I avoid listeria risks, am less rigorous with things likely to give me a tummy upset and have 2-3 units of alcohol a week after the 1st trimester (but only because I can't face booze befor 16 weeks or so)

Tempingmaniac Mon 24-Oct-11 19:01:31

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

bagelmonkey Mon 24-Oct-11 19:07:31

I didn't realize I was meant to avoid seafood until I was about 17 weeks and was eating it almost daily, so completely ignored that one.
Never heard of avoiding peanuts either. Must pay more attention.

carriedababi Mon 24-Oct-11 19:10:49

here just loooked at the nhs guidelines re what not to eat.
and looks like things have changed a bit since i was last pg with dd,

cooked prawns seem to be no problem
peanuts seem to be ok too

and i am not concerned about half a glass of wine with a meal.

i will avoid pate and mould ripened cheese tough

carriedababi Mon 24-Oct-11 19:13:44

oh this has changed too. "It is fine to eat whole cuts of beef and lamb such as steaks, cutlets and joints (but not rolled joints) rare, as long as the outside has been properly cooked."

so looks like a medium steak is fine as long as its cooked properly on the outside.

yay.

pruney1977 Mon 24-Oct-11 19:14:11

No need to avoid peanuts anymore according to nhs guidelines

www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/917.aspx?CategoryID=54&SubCategoryID=130

fuckityfuckfuckfuck Mon 24-Oct-11 19:21:14

I know people who take guidelines as gospel. I have been eating runny eggs and still drink coffee and diet coke. I don't like seafood or nuts so that's not an issue for me, and was never a big drinker so don't miss not having alcohol. I think that what you chose to eat is entirely up to you.

Biscuitsandtea Mon 24-Oct-11 19:26:58

Oh my goodness, just read this page which not only tells me I can eat peanuts (thank you to the earlier link for that - I was mistaken on that one) but that I can have smoked salmon too gringrin

I am so having smoked salmon and a snickers for lunch tomorrow smile

KatAndKit Mon 24-Oct-11 19:31:55

Prawn toast = absolutely fine
wine spritzer = absolutely fine once or twice a week
peanuts= absolutely fine
medium steak = also fine

I follow the important guidelines like raw eggs and stinky soft cheese. I have sneaked in a few pieces of cold pepperoni and I think serrano ham is ok ( I am still eating it). I also have eggs with a slightly soft yolk but I do make sure they are lion stamped and the white is properly cooked.

Biscuitsandtea Mon 24-Oct-11 19:33:06

Is there anything likely to be on a pizza topping that you need to avoid? Just the mention of pepperoni got me a-wondering....

KatAndKit Mon 24-Oct-11 19:34:49

Pizza topping is cooked for 12-14 minutes at 180 degrees normally! So all possible germy stuff has been busted by the oven. Pepperoni is fine when it is heated. it's probably not risky cold either but I don't think you are really supposed to have it.

CuntryManner Mon 24-Oct-11 19:40:02

I don't take much notice at all...as long as it's in moderation. Saying that I won't touch alcohol or cigarettes while pregnant. Had the occasional slice of pate on toast and my OBGYN said peanuts are perfectly safe to consume and AVOIDING them can cause allergies.

Biscuitsandtea Mon 24-Oct-11 19:50:50

Yay for pizzas grin

And snickers grin

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Mon 24-Oct-11 21:22:18

I take a lot less notice this time than last but cut back (but do not abstain) on things like alcohol and caffeine.

I am only avoiding Vit A products (liver, pate), unpasteurised and soft moulded cheese, runny eggs

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Mon 24-Oct-11 21:22:44

have also heard that unless you have a peanut allergy in the family, you ought to eat peanuts

carriedababi Mon 24-Oct-11 21:37:05

i noticed wine bottles have a picture with a bump on and a red line through it.

last time i was pg, we were told at ante natal classes[nhs]

you coul have a glass of alcohol during labour as pain relief

LikeABlackFlameCandleBNQ Mon 24-Oct-11 21:39:41

The only things I have avoided are:
Pate - except for at 11 weeks as my pre-ordered and much wanted Wedding Meal.
Prawns - dont really know why. Dont ever eat other types of shellfish.
More than one glass of wine per week - not a massive loss, not a big drinker.

ANything else goes, for me!

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Mon 24-Oct-11 21:43:38

those bloody bottles it's a GUIDELINE not the fricking law, makes me so angry us poor little preghant women cant be trusted to do our research and stay within our own limits. grrrrrrr

carriedababi Mon 24-Oct-11 21:46:50

trust me i don;'t treat oit like it the fricking law.

i would have had a drop on sat if i did!

susiey Mon 24-Oct-11 21:47:41

The answer is not much.
I eat prawns, runny poached eggs( yum!) and nuts with the same frequency as normal.
I cut down my caffine by about half but still drink diet coke and tea.
Alcohol is something I don't really do
I hate pâté and am not fussed by smelly cheese! I will have the odd bits if goats cheese though no more or less than normal though .

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 24-Oct-11 21:54:12

You can eat what you like in moderation. Stick to common sense and avoid taking risks. I.e. Know the sources of the more 'dodgy' products. Cured meat from a burger van prolly not as sensible as posh restaurant. Bagged lettuce not as good as thoroughly washed whole lettuce. Keep good hygiene and prepare food properly, then, enjoy.

feekerry Mon 24-Oct-11 22:08:34

not much really.

i haven't drank at all but dont really feel like it, have cut down on caffine as did drink loads of tea but again dont really feel like it. wouldn't eat pate as dont like it. apart from that i've just eaten what i pretty much normally would.

IssyStark Mon 24-Oct-11 22:12:31

I tend to follow the evidence on which the guidelines are based and not the dumbed down guidelines themselves. I've had many m/c (none due to food poisoning) but I do know I'm not susceptible to illness when pregnant so I try to be as careful with food hygiene as possible.

So I'll have:

* a small glass of wine a couple of times a week (post first-trimester)
* runny eggs if lion marked eggs and cooked at home (I wouldn't trust catering eggs in the slightest)
* brie and mold-ripened cheeses as long as it is cooked thoroughly (yeh for baked Camembert!)
* smoked salmon, hams etc as well as cooked prawns and seafood
* home-made, fresh pates (i.e. mackerel pate) as long as is hasn't sat around
* a cup of filter coffee and a couple of mugs of tea a day
* any hard cheese, pasteurised or unpasteurised, white, red or blue
* rare meat (I grew up with cats so have almost def. had toxo before and it is only the primary infection which is risky)

I avoid:
* liver
* catered runny eggs
* commercial pates
* runny cheeses (or stinky cheese as my brie-mad DS would have it)

Since having dc1, almost five years ago, they've updated the advice on peanuts (hurrah, no reason to avoid even with DH's hayfever and slight peanut allergy - not that I eat much anyway), and hard blue cheeses (stilton how I love you!)

IssyStark Mon 24-Oct-11 22:14:00

Opps that should be 'I'm more susceptible to illness when pregnant '

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