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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 16/06/2011 16:27

A new thread needed //here already! Lovely Grumblin who started the second one, may be actually having that baby at this minute!

I hope this will be a source of support for present sufferers and ex sufferers alike and also worried family members.

I want particularly to mention my favourite feline FluffyWhiteKittens, who has been so invaluable a source of support on the old threads, and MOH, who has slaved to produce articles full of useful information and links to useful websites, LaTrucha, lovely CaramelloKoalaLover, Grumblin, NitNat, La, Lottie, Grandmagain, MaryLou, Cocoanuts and so many that I cannot name everyone for fear that the current sufferer may became annoyed at the long list...

Never worry about tmi or moaning. When suffering one has to discuss things that would make most people go weak at the knees and to have a good moan can help enormously with an illness where there is still a lot of ignorance and sometimes insensitive treatment.

It might help to remember - when you are at your worst - the words in that Eastern story.
'This Too Shall Pass.'

LucindaE
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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 16:42

Just marking my place :)

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LucindaE · 16/06/2011 16:49

Cocoanuts tell me what you did - I did those unmentionable brackets to creat a link any number of times, and they just took me to 'can't be found on Google'

LucindaE
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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 16:49

Link to old thread for anyone who would like to read it here

Perhaps we can C&P the article written by MOH so it is visible on the first page.

I'll get to it... :)

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 16:59

Here is the article written by our MOH Fabulous piece of writing to give info to any new sufferers and also to any family members looking for support. It is lengthy, so if you feel to ill to read it, then feel free to wait :)

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 17:02

And our list of members. Any newcomers, feel free to add yourselves including your EDD :)

And remember, nothing is too TMI :)

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
Lottie: EDD 09/07/11
La: EDD 14/07/11 growth scan 08/06/11 (looking small despite huge bump!)
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
johnnyd1 (Luce): EDD 31/07/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11 First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11, next scan 09/06/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11

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MotherofPearl · 16/06/2011 17:03

Marking my place too! Coconuts, I've no objections to you putting up the list from the old thread (do you mean the due date + scan date list?). I'm hopeless, can't find it now.

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MotherofPearl · 16/06/2011 17:03

Sorry, cross-posted Coconuts! Thanks for finding it!

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 17:14

Looking at the list, there are so many who haven't posted in a while. Hope they are all ok. LOTM eggy marylou

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ElliottsMummy · 16/06/2011 17:41

Hi all, Just pulling up a chair (nice big comfy one of course!!) :) good work on the new thread so far - think that having MOH 's great piece at the top for anyone who pops in is a great addition. Welcome to newbies - hope everyone is coping as best they can.

I'm 25 wks now and still hoping for this to go away!! Bit of nausea and odd bit of sickness but manageable now. Still taking both of my medications as everytime I try to cut back things get a bit crappy :( but only 9 weeks left at work now and just started to plan my wedding for next year - so other things to focus on!!

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 17:46

Ooh a wedding in the vicinity! How exciting!

Best to keep taking the meds elliottsmummy to save a relapse. At least it's manageable. I found I only ended up cutting back on mine because my brain got so poor that I ended up forgetting to take them. Then I'd realise 3 hours after they were due to be taken that I'd gone an extra 3 hours, and that's the way it went for a while :) Hopefully you'll feel better soon and it'll work itself out. We're so close together with our EDDs :)

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ElliottsMummy · 16/06/2011 17:59

Am only taking one Avomine at bedtime and one Buccastem after breakfast so not taking loads really - resigned myself to the fact i'll probably be taking them til the end!

My first baby took an extra week to show his face so our dates could end up even closer!! :)

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 18:09

My first was 2 weeks late so this one will probably end up keeping the gap the same as it is Grin

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ElliottsMummy · 16/06/2011 18:19
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La73 · 16/06/2011 18:33

Finally escaped hospital so marking place and posting updated list of members - Grumblin & Lottie soon to join pink castle :) 

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
Lottie: Induction 28/06/11 (EDD 09/07/11)
La: EDD 14/07/11  
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
johnnyd1 (Luce): EDD 31/07/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11 First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD 
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12

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fluffywhitekittens · 16/06/2011 18:43

Waves and marks place.
Grumblin due anytime soon, saving her a comfy spot in the castle :)

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grandmaagain · 16/06/2011 19:08

well done on new thread lucinda good idea coconuts to put moh"s brilliant article in. best wishes to all x

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caramellokoalalover · 16/06/2011 21:44

Hello all! I think we need to have a pink castle added to the list so those still in the throes of HG can be reminded that there is a castle at the end of the rainbow! So without further ado...

Grumblin: EDD 17/06/11
Lottie: Induction 28/06/11 (EDD 09/07/11)
La: EDD 14/07/11
Nitnat: EDD 20/7/11
johnnyd1 (Luce): EDD 31/07/11
Theonlyhb2: EDD 16/08/11 First timer (eeek)
ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Coconuts: EDD 01/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11, Next scan 23/6/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11 (subject to change)
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11, next scan 22/06/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 19/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11 , Dating scan: 25/06/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12

Pink Castle Graduates:
LucindaE
fluffywhitekittens
MOH
LaTrucha
caramellokoalalover

Any other graduates for the list I have rudely forgotten?

Grumblin you are about to graduate, the kettle is on and I've got some frozen choc chip cookie dough just waiting to be popped in the oven for you when you're ready! Hope you're ok, the last few days were the worst for me. That feeling of 'so close yet so far'!

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ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts · 16/06/2011 22:40

Great idea caramello :)

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LucindaE · 17/06/2011 10:20

Everyone Really sorry about that fiasco about links - really anxious that sufferers manage to find their way here - the instructions from MumsNet may not have been good, but I am still mortified at letting everyone down.
Coconuts to the rescue, fortunately...Blush
Katharine forgive me, with the hoo-ha I couldn't give you a welcome, here it is, beliatedly. How are you and M11n? Annoyed about doctor's insistence on ketones before treatment, in fact, I suspect that may have been an unofficial guidance at one time at least, as I have heard that they routinely don't prescribe until one has been hospitalised (I suppose that doctor I had was waiting for that, which for sure would have happened if that Acupunture hadn't worked so brilliantly). It does seem bizarre if the brain in fact 'gets into a pattern of vomiting ( I don't mean in any way a conscious thing, I mean a nervous system thing), so it is best not to let it.
Caramel That pink castle in the clouds having occupants is a great idea!
Grumblin Surely today is your due day? Well,I know babies don't like to arrive when predicted, but any time now, what with being a third...
Grandma Luce high on list...
How is everyone?
LucindaE
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nitnatnaboo · 17/06/2011 10:25

La did I read correctly that you've just escaped hospital? Tell more!

Grumblin wherefore art thou?

Buff (have you got Buff Orpingtons? I love them!)
Another teacher here. I have been signed off since 9 weeks - Dec 1st. I tried to go back at around 18 weeks but didn't even make it to the classroom before the exhaustion/anxiety set in (we had moved to a brand new school and I didn't know where my room was or what was in it, plus they had done a crap phased return which involved working full time for the first three days! Doh!).
The Head told me to go home and referred me back to Occ Health who I had seen once before. the Occ Health lady couldn't believe I'd tried to go back to work, especially when I said I'd suffered from postnatal depression after last pregnancy, so she recommended I stay off work for the rest of the pregnancy due to the exhaustion/risk of stress leading to PND. Have had no hassle whatsoever from school. They claim back 90% of supply costs and prefer to know long term what's happening, rather than living from sick note to sick note, as it were. Looking back I would not have coped in school as even though I'm only vomiting once a week now, there has been such a legacy of exhaustion that I can only manange one "normal human" day before having a day of rest.Hope this helps you feel less guilty!

I had a brush with hospital on Weds - unexplained bleeding. Had to cancel chiropractor's appt that I'd made 10 mins before and go to delivery suite. Was monitored for a while, no probs, then had an internal exam (the joys). They think it might have come from "the back passage"! Then came home, threw tea up and had a bath in disgust (takes a lot to make me have a bath). Saw Chiro yesterday, got extensively "cracked" and currently have frozen peas in funny places.

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LucindaE · 17/06/2011 10:42

NitNat Goodness, bleeding, what a drama...So glad all is OK. I used to have a Chiropractitioner, she was brilliant, helped my dyslexia no end, woud you believe. she was a tiny whoman who used to shout if one had been guilty of bad posture in the internval, I was terrified of her, and have good posture to this day...Grin They do swear by those frozen veg packs on sore places, don't they?
LA Yes, I shouldn't have missed that. I hope the hospital doesn't indicate anything serious?
LucindaE
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grumblinalong · 17/06/2011 13:42

la Oh no?! Hospital, very alarming, hope it was nothing serious?

nitnat You seem to be going through it at the moment - didn't you have another bleed not so long ago? Hope you're feeling reassured. I had an internal exam, a catheter and rectal suppositories Blush when I was admitted to labour ward following my blackout shennanigans each one was far too close for comfort.

So I'm still here - haven't had so much of a twinge Sad Everyone keeps telling me they think the hospital have got my dates wrong, as my bump is small, grr. Better just be a mini one. Got a scan & consultant on Monday if no action, am dithering about ringing my acupuncture woman as apparently they can do stuff to set labour off. Traditional methods are out - curry would make me boak, sex is totally off the menu due to thrush/proplapse combination, pineapple & raspberry leaf tea would set off heartburn. Tramploine it is then!

fluffy, Lucinda and caramel get the cake out! I'd like carrot then chocolate then lemon drizzle and a huge serving of that frozen choc chip cookie dough please. Oh and also a gallon of Brew and a few sneaky glasses of Wine would be lovely (no chance eh with a small infant permamnently attached to breast for next 3 months!) I am excited though now, the end is very much in sight and it feels good to do the morning bile run and think this could be my last.

Lottie countdown for you is on now Grin When did they decide to induce you?

coconuts and elliotsmummy You'll be massively preg when weather just starts to cool and your babies will be the super duper older kids at school.

theonly When are you starting ML? Surely it can't be too long?

I was thinking the other day what a HG support thread meet up might look like - the venue would have to have very accessible & plentiful toilets, sick buckets/bags, no smells and provide lots of ice/drinks/'safe' food for the early HG'ers, roomy for second & third trimester bumps with lots of comfy sofa's and a nap place as optional and very understanding staff who could listen to tmi. The pink castle dwellers would be handing out blankets and chanting 'This too shall pass' in a calm and knowing manner. It makes me laugh thinking about the pure chaos.

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marylou242 · 17/06/2011 13:48

LA hope you've not been in hospital for HG treatment??

grumblin fingers crossed you're one of the 5% or whatever it is, whose baby arrives on their due date.

katharine the doctors practice I went to for my last PG had the rule about not prescribing without ketones or hospital admission. The practice I'm seeing this time thinks that's out of date and will prescribe if sickness is making it so you're unable to function/work etc. It's hard when you're feeling so ill, but don't feel guilty about getting stroppy with them, or asking for a referral elsewhere. There are doctors who are willing to prescribe things.

caramel what about those of us who are about to graduate for a second time? Do we get a higher qualification to add to our CVs?

Sorry haven't been on for a while. Sorry to see there are some new sufferers but welcome!

I've managed to cut down to one cyclizine a day. Still have the morning bile run which is made even worse by hayfever. Vomiting and blocked noses are not a good mix. Fingers crossed it's going though, up to 19 weeks now. It lasted until 8 months last time so hopefully will clear off a bit earlier this time. My bump is getting huge. I'm the same size now as I was at 7 months last time. This is the disadvantage of being able to keep down some food this time around.

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allias · 17/06/2011 15:09

Hi all!! Just checking in and marking post for TIO.

Had a drip in a&e on Monday feeling rough today and I'm docs waiting room at the moment, had keetones on mon and have more today acording to stix hoping to get some more time of work as due back Monday 20th

Will catch up with everyones news when I get in

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allias · 17/06/2011 16:14

Me again!! Got nasty throat infection and am off to get a drip top up, fun day out with ds4.... Hope everyone is having a better day, I can read the thread while waiting and see how you are all doing and actually post about others intead of Selfishly posting about me all the timeBlush Wink

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