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Reducing Stillbirth: Count the Kicks Campaign

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CarGirl Thu 14-Apr-11 19:50:39

I just want to promote "Count The Kicks"

Please read this, if it helps one Mum not suffer the agony of stillbirth it's worth it

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 05-Feb-13 13:19:57

Bumping x

Jenble, I'm so sorry for your loss, I hope by now you have some

redwellybluewelly Tue 05-Feb-13 19:22:31

I am so sorry for the loss of all the babies on this thread and in fact the fact the NHS still refuses to be more proactive about preventing stillbirth and mitigating it. Count the Kicks would have also saved my DD from oxygen deprivation had i known about it.

I was one of the 'have some icecream and a cold drink', didn't want to bother anyone, knew I was in slow labour - also knew deep deep down something was very very wrong.

DD survived. Just. However there is a case for negligence because the MW/Dr on call at the delivery unit however left me on a monitor for two hours which showed no response and they then catastrophically induced me rather than carry out an EMCS which would have prevented a coma, weeks in NICU and a life long disability (CP).

I carry a lot of guilt over what happened to her, I was young, active easy pregnancy but I was overdue and nobody warned me that there was a higher risk. I am pg again now, and finding it extremely tough, not wanting to bond too much but feeling even more guilt if I ignore this bump as I loved being pg with DD (DC1).

I'll be buying a band this evening.

redwellybluewelly Tue 05-Feb-13 19:24:19

(and I'm not allowed a home birth, in fact an ELCS is really only my current option according to my consultant. I would desperately love to have DC2 at home. Non smoked, active, no drink or drugs, etc etc

FoofFighter Sun 31-Mar-13 18:48:35


Very sad reading but essential for any pregnant woman/their partner. Being informed in your pregnancy is the best tribute you can pay to these babies x

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 03-Apr-13 18:27:38


I'm 21wks & ordered my band over the weekend. DS stopped moving twice, was thankfully fine, but I had no idea it was such a big deal the first time.
redwelly, congratulations on your pregnancy, I hope you manage to enjoy it.
Sorry to hear about your DD/your guilt over it all. x

Lucky13ForBaby Wed 03-Apr-13 19:24:48

bump. Marking my place

StuckOnARollercoaster Wed 03-Apr-13 20:01:51

p.s gary - the bands take a while to come through - I think they're a pretty small outfit with regard to shipping things out so just be patient! I'm sure I ordered mine over a month ago and it turned up out of the blue today.
(ps. I've gradually with time over the last month learnt my baby's patterns without the band - I just thought it was a nice way to make a small donation...)

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 04-Apr-13 16:47:40

Stuck, band arrived yesterday!
I guess someone in their office must've had some spare time over the Bank Holiday.

bumping some more.

FoofFighter Tue 28-May-13 20:14:24


Fuckwittery Tue 28-May-13 20:31:37

I am finding that website a bit confusing tbh.
can anyone link to where it says how many kicks you should be counting and what sort of change would indicate a worry, and how often you should count (surely not all day everyday!)

I am also a little bit hmm about seeming to be recommending all women should help their baby by having a private scan, under how to help your baby, it seems irresponsible to make women feel guilty anout something they may not be able to afford.

I also cant find the kick chart or the wristband available to buy or be sent to me on the website and my MW hasnt given me one.

anything can reduce stillbirth is great, I am just a bit disappointed by the layout of the site and actual info sbout what we should be looking for. I am on ipad though and the links are tricky to click so maybe I've missed something.

FoofFighter Tue 28-May-13 20:35:23

Fuckwittery Tue 28-May-13 20:39:26

Thank you! i think the links are not working properly on ipad I spent ages browsing and did not see that page

FoofFighter Tue 28-May-13 20:47:00

No problem smile I have to agree that it's not the best set out website ever tbh

rumtumtugger Tue 28-May-13 23:25:05

Do hiccups count as purposeful kicks? I feel a lot of hiccups but not as many kicks.

rumtumtugger Tue 28-May-13 23:28:04

Oh. I've just seen here that hiccups don't count. Does anyone know why?

Forgetfulmog Tue 28-May-13 23:34:51

I think rum it's because babies can have hiccups quite frequently & if you're counting each hiccup as movement then that can really skew the results.

So, for example on Monday, baby had 3 lots of 15 hiccups & moved 20 times (totalling 65 movements if you count the hiccups), but on Tuesday baby didn't have any hiccups at all & just moved 20 times. That's a massive difference.

I don't know for sure though, it's just a guess smile

Bullets Tue 28-May-13 23:43:33

Bump xxx

FoofFighter Wed 29-May-13 12:45:01

Hiccups are an involuntary movement rather than a purposefulone, so guessing thats' why?

Forgetfulmog Wed 29-May-13 15:24:36

Foof that makes more sense than my garbled message smile

Smerlin Mon 01-Jul-13 09:35:50

Bump- using the Count the Kicks app and going to download a chart as well

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 18-Jul-13 11:37:14


It's warm, it's easy to blame the heat on having a lazy baby.

LuckySocks13 Fri 19-Jul-13 09:05:13

So sorry for all the losses on here. Sleep well angel babies.
I have just downloaded the app but bit confused. Can anyone offer advice? Gary? Do I just use in 10 min slots or record the kicks all day? I ordered some resources months ago from the website but they not arrived sad my friend lost her dear little baby girl last year so feeling nervous and want to be proactive.

PoppettyPing Fri 19-Jul-13 11:12:14

I'm sorry but I find this whole thing really confusing. This is my first pregnancy (32 weeks) and I honestly can't tell the difference between kicks and movements? I feel movements all day, maybe some of them are kicks but I can't tell... but then movements don't count? Huh? I find the website very vague. It says there is "no average", so when am I supposed to be alarmed? My checkups are always good, I feel like my baby is very squirmy and active but I don't really feel very many strong "kicks" as it were. And what do hiccups feel like? Arrgh sorry for my confused ramblings but all the sad stories on this thread are frightening me! My heart goes out to all of them, it's so sad.

FoofFighter Fri 19-Jul-13 12:17:48

as i understand it yes movements count, but not hiccups. some places still use ten kicks a day which to me is misleading as you could have 10 kicks first thing then nothing more all day, think its all ok but sad .....

FoofFighter Fri 19-Jul-13 12:19:11

just learn your own babys routine as they are 0all different, then if there is anything out of the ordinary you will know its not typical and know to get advice asap from mw or triage

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