nighttime training for 4.5 yr dd advice please

[WearingPInkPyjamas]

dd is 4.5. Until two weeks ago she was having a big beaker of milk before bed and a few months ago she started saying she wanted to stop pull ups. We had been changing her pull ups when we went to bed around 11 and they were wet through by then and then when she wakes at 7 ish they'd be wet through again and sometimes have leaked.

Anyway we said she could stop the pull-ups once she has stopped the milk and in the two weeks since stopping milk but still wearing pull ups she has been mostly dry when I have gone to bed (though not always) and then wakes up at around 5am to use the loo, going back to sleep again after if snuggle dup in my bed with me.

So tonight I was out and she convinced dh that she didn't need pull up. Fine - needs to be done at some point and would love her to be out of night time pull ups before she starts school in sept. Dh didn;t insist she do a wee before bed which is annoying - he said he asked her and she said she didn't need one (but I would have insisted she try!). Just came to bed ten mins ago and massive wee needing entire change of bedding and clothing etc.

So main point is - can anyone talk me through what I am meant to do now. I have tried lifting her when I go to bed but she just screams and thrashes about. So no drink before bed and insist on a wee before bed, but what else - what can make her either hold it all night or wake at 10pmish when she needs a wee?

Thanks - hope this makes sense.

[WearingPinkPyjamas]

Bump, as posted late last night

[Pikkewyn]

Probably not what you want to hear but wait until she is consistently dry, it is a hormonal thing not something you can train her for.

[dementedpixie]

night - time dryness is dependent on producing a hormone that limits urine overnight plus the ability to wake when the bladder is full. It is not something you can train for and depends on the child involved.

does it really matter if she still wears pull ups at night while at school? its not as if she would be the only one and how would anyone know anyway?

[306235388]

Just started with Dd of same age. we've removed pull ups altogether. She's been dry 80% of the time.

Tips:
Make sure she drinks loads in morning and early afternoon - this will help her bladder capacity as well as hydrating her.
No black currant juice.
Pee before bed - ask a couple of times and insist she tries.

That's it really.

[306235388]

And yes if it's not working then go back to pull ups and wait because it is hormonal rather than behavioural

[ConcreteElephant]

PP are right. Night dryness is hormonal and there's nothing you can do but wait for your DD to be ready.

My DD is 5.6 and still not dry at night, despite being totally potty trained for daytime at just turned 2 (her choice timing-wise, not mine). She'd like to be dry, she knows her friends don't wear pull-ups to bed but until her body is ready she won't be dry at night. As I understand it, GPs aren't even concerned till DC hit 7 as it's entirely normal till then.

I just reassure her as above really - there's nothing she can do, it's totally normal, dryness will come.