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For my sanity...is there *any* way of getting this poo in the toilet?

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ElphabaTheGreen Sat 13-Dec-14 19:04:20

We haven't really started toilet training DS1 (2yrs 6m) in earnest, but he knows what toilets are for, will reliably squeeze out a wee every time we put him on the toilet (with toddler seat and step to access) and occasionally asks to go on the toilet for a wee. Nappy changes are a screaming, kicking, traumatising nightmare, so I really should consider biting the bullet and going nappy-free and train fully, but I have non-sleeping DS2 (18 weeks) that just makes everything seem that much harder at the moment.

DS1 does his only poo of the day everyday between 4 and 5pm, and always just as DS2 has fallen asleep in the sling. Like. Clockwork. I have promised stickers, casually left the toilet door open, tried (and failed, cueing hysterics) to get his nappy off so he asks to go to the loo, which he will do for wee as he doesn't like messing the floor, but I cannot get him to do this poo in the toilet so that the two events don't coincide. I'm then left trying to change a shitty nappy on a flailing, wailing, kicking toddler with a mahoosive baby in a sling and I'm almost weeping. DS2 will not nap in a pram or cot at this time of day, despite hours and hours and days of my life spent shh-ing in a darkened room, so getting DS1 to poo on the toilet seems to be my only option to stay out of Bedlam.

Any thoughts??

Davinaaddict Sat 13-Dec-14 19:20:21

Not much help with the poo situation, as my first was really late in training but seemed to click pretty quickly, and my second was doing really well until the last couple of weeks when she seems to have forgotten how to poo anywhere but her knickers fconfused.

Have you tried with a potty rather than toilet? Could possibly be a bit less daunting?

If you haven't already tried, will DS2 sleep in a back carry? I found it much easier to do things that way, than attempting doing anything with a chunk on my front. Although that depends on what type of sling you have of course fsmile

ElphabaTheGreen Sat 13-Dec-14 20:01:39

I haven't tried a potty because he doesn't seem to have any worries at all with the toilet. I figured since he doesn't seem to have any fears around falling in that we may as well start as we mean to go on (and means I don't have to wash out a shitty potty...). Do you think it could make a difference? He loathes having me in the room when he's doing a poo so maybe a nearby potty might appeal. I know he's cranking it out when he starts fervently saying, 'Go WAY mummy! Make tea! Go WAY!' 'Are you pooing DS1?' 'NO! Go WAY! MAKE TEA!' <stink starts to rise>

I can back carry like a lentil-weaving Earth mother in my wrap sling. Will DS2 sleep that way? Not on your nelly. Felt like a genius learning to tie the sling like this and thought all my prayers were answered, and all I can use it for is taking out the bins when he's wide awake angry

lanbro Sat 13-Dec-14 20:07:25

Dd1 was great with wees but poos were always just as I'd put a pull up on for bed or in knicks. Even when I could see she was about to go and lobbed her on the loo she wouldn't do it. We had a trip to Mothercare where I let her choose her ownpotty - a huge Peppa Pig throne that was fortunately reduced from £20 to £5! - and own knickers. Hey presto, cracked within a couple of days! A celebratory poo dance was also involved.....!

Good luck!

ElphabaTheGreen Sat 13-Dec-14 20:12:59

Interesting....

I've read good reviews about the Thomas the Tank Engine potty that plays the theme tune when child 'produces'. DS1 more than slightly obsessed with The Engine so it may be a wise investment...

Davinaaddict Sat 13-Dec-14 20:32:00

Why do children never read the manual? fwink Hopefully he will soon learn that it's nice to sleep on mums back! Although be prepared that they might not want to stop <looks fondly at nearly 5yo DS, who still likes to go up on long days out, when he's tired>

Fingers crossed Thomas works if you decide to invest. They say it often takes kids longer to get the whole poo thing. That's certainly the case in our household!

Singleandproud Sat 13-Dec-14 20:42:56

I used to sit my dd on the toilet at her normal time and read stories to her while she was there untill she'd finished. It can take a while to go so if the child seat on the toilet is the hard plastic variety maybe he's uncomfortable. You could have the baby in the sling, put a chair in the hall outside the loo and read.
It can take some children a long time to get fully potty trained and it's really important not to make too big a deal otherwise help hold it in.

I think one of the most important parts of potty training is being consistent, choose a time when you are all ready, tell him that this is what we are doing now, you have big boy pants and you go to the toilet in the bathroom. Use a sticker chart - Maybe small stickers for a wee and maybe some 'special' (bigger or foil) ones for a poo

ElphabaTheGreen Tue 16-Dec-14 17:40:12

This is a zombie thread pretty much but I'm just too excited!

Decided to ignore DH's harrumphs of 'he isn't ready' and bought DS1 the Thomas potty. Set it up in the conservatory (where he usually retreats for a quiet poo in his nappy) and casually walked off. DS immediately ripped his trousers and nappy off and produced a perfect poo plus a wee for good measure, then asked politely for a clean nappy which he very willingly let me put on him! grin

Sod DH. I'm buying him some undies tomorrow and trying this properly.

MilchundCookies Tue 13-Jan-15 05:16:48

Hi Elphaba, how is your DS doing now, one month on? DD is the same age (I lurked on your sleep (or lack of) threads a couple of years ago!

My DD has taken to wees in the loo/potty like a duck to
water. In the five days since we started, we've only had one wee accident.

But poo is another story. It's only made it once into the potty. She says it comes too fast for her to know it's coming, and runs wailing to the loo that Mr Poo Poo needs to WAIT. But it's always in her knickers.

I bribe her with stickers and raisins, but so far to no avail.

Please tell me a success story!

(And how does your DS2 sleep? My DS is 11mo and has only just started sleeping for longer than two hours at a time ...)

StrikesMatches Wed 14-Jan-15 21:19:30

I'd love to know too! DD was a nightmare to poo train (great start completely ruined by a gippy tummy). DS (2.6) started potty training on Saturday and we've just had day 2 of no wet accidents total rockstar, but all poos have been in his pants <boak>.

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