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The world is NOT your child's toilet!

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AnnoyedAlot7 Sun 02-Feb-14 02:01:57

Please, I implore you all to just keep them in a nappy until they're ready, the potty is just another step that has to be learned an un -learned again and will only cause you stress. I have two boys who are years beyond this stage now but I feel I am the only person left in this country who is is NOT ok with everyone thinking that if you are a boy in potty training, you will explode if you're not allowed to just piss like a dog where you like! IF THEY CAN'T WAIT PUT THEM IN A NAPPY! PLEASE! There is a reason that there is a law against public urination, because it IS offensive and although it is NOT unusual for grown people to get caught short after the pub with nowhere to go, trust me, if you teach your kids that it's fine to go where you want, it will be YOUR child who (instead of being discreet) will be desicrating some shop doorway or just being on full view on a Saturday night making everyone have to avoid stepping through and having to smell their dirty waste! I hate it and it makes me want to put my fist through glass!

lizandlulu Sun 02-Feb-14 20:59:31

Wow you are an understanding person aren't you!

I take it that you feel like this when dog owners are letting their pets urinate and poo on pavements too? A thimble full of wee is a lot less offensive I think.
Also a lot less offensive than letting a child who is still learning to control theyre bladder to stay in wet clothes snd get chaffed legs?

How will they ever learn to wait if they wear a nappy and can go whenever they please??

pettyprudence Sun 02-Feb-14 21:11:23

My ds loves an outdoor wee grin. He is now pretty much able to hold it in but on a long car journey today we finally got to a service station... and the toilets were out of order. My ds had a sneaky little wee next to the car. At 37w pg I had to cross my legs another 20 mins (so nearly an hour at this point) til the next garage. If that had been out of order then quite frankly I would have wee'd in the car park too!

My ds does not wee in shop door ways but fairly often next to the car in car parks/lay by's.

imip Sun 02-Feb-14 21:19:24

Hmmm.... My dds wee outside. If I am at a park and there are no public toilets, I find a tree/secluded area and they do it outside, better than wetting their knickers. This would include my current three year old who has been toilet trained successfully day and night for 12 months.

I was desperate to toilet train dd1 who was allergic to her own urine, resulting in eczema. Toilet training was the best solution for that.

I'm not bothered by small kids going to the toilets outdoors. We've been doing it outdoors for millions of years. Even now, not everyone has access to a toilet.

BelleateSebastian Sun 02-Feb-14 21:19:47

No issue with toddlers having a crafty slash against a car tyre but one sunny day last year we were eating our picnic on the beach when some inconsiderate bint brought her daughter over to within fucking literally 2ft of us and held her over the sand to piss! as well as the fear of splash back on our sandy sandwiches, we had to sit next to a pissy patch of sand! Grrrrr angry

MoreBeta Sun 02-Feb-14 21:24:16

You do know urine is sterile unless you have a UTI.

It is advised as a wound cleansing fluid in survival situations - contains ammonia and saline.

lizandlulu Sun 02-Feb-14 21:25:05

Obviously, it goes without saying, it's best done discreetly, but honestly, better than risking them wet they're pants.

anothernumberone Sun 02-Feb-14 21:25:52

No need to shout. If it is beside a road on a long car journey yabu, if it is in a forest yabu, if it is a grocery shop YANBU. Depends really.

HamletsSister Sun 02-Feb-14 21:26:56

No doorways here. Just lots and lots and lots of lovely grass to fertilize.

RunRunRuby Sun 02-Feb-14 21:27:10

Hm outdoors like behind a bush in the countryside wouldn't bother me. Was angryshock at the woman who let her little darling pee on a crowded tube platform though. There was quite a lot of it and because of the shape and slope of the platform it ran down towards the tracks getting on people's bags, where they'd put them down to wait for the train, and onto people's shoes! It was at Paddington so it's not like there aren't toilets available. It didn't get on my bag so I didn't say anything but I can't believe anyone could be so inconsiderate. Wee smells and is unpleasant, I'm sure she would've had something to say if an adult had done the same thing to her bag.

It's a bit gross in concreted areas where it can't run away, as then there's a puddle and people aren't necessarily going to expect it to be wee. If you need to do it in a carpark or similar it would be best to do it directly into a drain.

RunRunRuby Sun 02-Feb-14 21:29:38

Also I thought urine was only sterile until it left the body?

cupcake78 Sun 02-Feb-14 21:31:17

Wait till your children are being potty trained and then come back and moan grin

Sometimes an emergency discrete outside wee is necessary for girls and boys.

My two love a wild wee when caught short. Usually behind a tree.

It depends.

They've done it over a drain before too. If there are no toilets and they're desperate I try to be discreet.

They're 5 & 6 now, I won't be putting them back in nappies, that's for sure.

cupcake78 Sun 02-Feb-14 21:33:18

Ok so I apologise. Thought your kids were tiny not fully grown.

I still think emergency quick wees are necessary sometimes.

SavingMyselfForLukePerry Sun 02-Feb-14 21:34:58

I think you've got some issues probably because your parents didn't let you do the all fresco peeing

SavingMyselfForLukePerry Sun 02-Feb-14 21:35:52

Al fresco!

kelper Sun 02-Feb-14 21:36:12

My ds loves peeing up against a tree in our garden! He went through a phase as a toddler of pretending to be a dog. This involved pooing in the garden :-/ glad he's grown out of that one!
I think most people have had a sneaky/desperate pee outdoors, but even ds doesn't wee in front of the general public! Chill out smile

ziggiestardust Sun 02-Feb-14 21:36:39

My DS simply won't go outside, I'd actually quite like to him to go behind a tree or something instead of having to search desperately for a loo!

There's a way of doing it discreetly though, so as not to embarrass the child, I don't like seeing children being made to go on the edge of a street in full view. I always think it would take two seconds to dive down a back street!

Back2Basics Sun 02-Feb-14 21:38:55

Meh my ds (6) still has the odd wee outside. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.

MizK Sun 02-Feb-14 21:42:02

Honestly, if it's a choice between letting a toddler wee outdoors or all over themselves I will go with the al fresco weeing ta. If you seriously believe that this will produce adults who cannot stop themselves from peeing indiscriminately in doorways, that's just silly. And if anybody like you gave me any grief for letting a child wee if they were desperate, they would be told about themselves!

BrianTheMole Sun 02-Feb-14 21:43:24

Nothing wrong with an outside wee. I'm quite partial to one myself occasionally.

Rosa Sun 02-Feb-14 21:43:48

My 5 year old had a wee in a huge empty ( well it had soil) flower pot last Sunday..it was not a private house one ..more like a council one in an empty summer resort!!!every bar possible area was closed it was that or a side street . nappy no thanks she was dry day and nights in 3 days age 2.8 .We had done an hour car journey ( wee in toilet before starting off). What do you suggest I had done ?

IamInvisible Sun 02-Feb-14 21:44:38

Urine is not sterile, that is a myth. It is only sterile until it reaches the urethra.

The odd outdoor wee done by a child doesn't bother me, tbh.

2kidsintow Sun 02-Feb-14 21:49:23

An outdoor wee done by a child who is of the age of being potty trained doesn't bother me too much.

The friend of my DD whose mother would tell her to go wee behind a bush while out at the park when she was 7 years old did bother me though. I'd have taken mine to the nearest toilet (in this case in the family pub a 2 minute walk from the park) or home (friend and I always drove to this park so would be a 2 min drive for either of us) to use the toilet rather than wee in public.

birdsnotbees Sun 02-Feb-14 21:51:34

Currently potty training my DD. She's still learning bladder control. She can't wait, she doesn't yet know how or have the muscle control. We take the potty everywhere but if she needs to use it between our house and, say, the park, we don't have much choice.

Hardly see her turning into some sort of al fresco wee monster when she's a teenager, tbh grin

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