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TheNightIsDark Fri 03-Jan-14 10:32:18

DS (4.9) and DD (3.6) still have pull ups for bed.
Occasionally they will wake up dry but it's not reliable enough to not use the pull ups.

Everyone else's children of the same age appear to be dry at night and I have no idea how to do it.

They take a small flask of water to bed, they go to the toilet before getting into bed.

I guess taking the water away is the first step?

ilovepowerhoop Fri 03-Jan-14 22:35:00

why would you need flaming? Night wetting isnt considered an issue until the age of 7/8years. Night dryness is dependant on producing a hormone that suppresses urine production overnight plus the ability to wake up when the bladder is full. You cant really train for night-time the same way as you would in the day.

girliefriend Fri 03-Jan-14 22:37:08

Do you life them for a wee when you go to bed? I did this with dd until she was 4 1/2 ish.

Also confused as to why you think you would be flamed!!

girliefriend Fri 03-Jan-14 22:37:32

Lift not life!!

ShoeWhore Fri 03-Jan-14 22:39:30

What ilove said.

When they are ready they will do it. But yes it might help to restrict drinks from an hour or so before bed. (And make sure they drink plenty earlier in the day)

The ERIC website is very good for advice. It is totally normal to still need a pull-up at this age.

MrsBungle Fri 03-Jan-14 22:40:05

As long as my dd was in pull ups she was going to wee in them and not use the toilet. They were sodden every morning. I just bit the bullet and got a waterproof sheet and I lifted her to go to the loo when I went to bed. For us, this worked really well. We've only ever had a couple of accidents.

ShoeWhore Fri 03-Jan-14 22:41:16

It's not usually recommended to lift as you can inadvertently train them to wee in their sleep. If you do you are advised to make sure they are fully awake.

RandomMess Fri 03-Jan-14 22:41:17

Increasing day time fluids can help trigger the production of the hormone needed so that is the best thing to work on for now. No flaming at all.

ShoeWhore Fri 03-Jan-14 22:43:18

(I should add I did lift my eldest so not being judgey about it but medical advice is specifically not so. Ds was quite a bit older and getting upset about it all)

ShoeWhore Fri 03-Jan-14 22:44:59

Btw not everyone else's children are dry if that helps. About a quarter of most infant classes will not be dry at night. Noone talks about it though.

curlew Fri 03-Jan-14 22:49:25

It's not a good idea to restrict fluids because it makes the pee more concentrated and it irritates the bladder- making it more likely that they will wet the bed.

If you can afford it, I would carry on with the pull ups until they are reliably dry in the morning. Not worth a moment's stress or hassle in my opinion!

LondonNinja Fri 03-Jan-14 22:54:10

Just wanted to say thanks for this thread! smile DC is 4.3 and in pull-ups at night. Was starting to worry.

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 03-Jan-14 22:56:27

DS1 was in pull-ups until he was 5.5 and DS2 is just getting dry at 3.11. They do it in their own time IME. Oh and all we have done is encourage using stickers etc. No night lifting or any such

Theonlyoneiknow Fri 03-Jan-14 22:56:27

Another one saying thanks. DS is four and has à wet pull up every morning.

Will try increasing his fluids during the day.

OneMoreThenNoMore Fri 03-Jan-14 23:00:01

My dd is 4 in march and we're nowhere near ready to take her out of nappies/pull-ups at night. It's been a long process to get her toilet trained during the day- my nerves aren't ready for nighttime training too! smile

sweetkitty Fri 03-Jan-14 23:05:58

DD1 was nearly 4 1/2 before she was dry at night.

DD2 & 3 were dry about a week after being potty trained

DS is. 3.8 years and still has a pull up at night.

I don't stress it's only one pull up , he'll do it in his own time .

Tommy Fri 03-Jan-14 23:08:50

DS3 is 7 in Feb.....
(my theory is that they make pull-ups in aged 4-7 and even 8-15 so he can't be the only one......)

gingerroots Fri 03-Jan-14 23:17:11

Dd nrly 6 still wets every night. I spoke with nurse after reception health check & this website was recommended still in pull ups and still wet every night though & i wonder when it will end...

TheNightIsDark Fri 03-Jan-14 23:31:10

Thank you everyone. I was beginning to think they were really behind blush

seafoodudon Fri 03-Jan-14 23:47:18

That's really interesting re not lifting. We've been lifting dd1 as I'd remembered dps doing that with my siblings but will read up on it.
Dd1 was still having soaking wet pull ups at night when she announced she didn't want to wear them any more. I let her have her way to try and we had 3 dry nights in a row. It's been really hit and miss since then but we've now got to the stage of about 2/3 nights being dry and as it's normally just the bottom sheet that needs a wash I can just about cope for the time being!

seventiesgirl Fri 03-Jan-14 23:51:23

My DS has always had a drink of milk before bed and usually refused the loo. Don't think it made any difference in when he was dry at night, just happened to wet the bed less and less frequently.

Wearing/not wearing pull ups made no difference. We just ditched the pull ups when dry nights were much more frequent.

lilyaldrin Fri 03-Jan-14 23:54:33

I didn't wait for the nappy to be dry in the morning tbh - just stopped using them a couple of weeks after DS was potty trained in the day. We got some bed mats, had a couple of nights of wet bed, then a few nights of him waking up in the night for a wee, then sleeping through and waiting for the morning.

TheNightIsDark Fri 03-Jan-14 23:55:55

I only have one waterproof sheet at the moment so I might do ip dip do tomorrow and select one to go without a pull up!

DD is desperate to get rid of them.

MrsBungle Fri 03-Jan-14 23:58:34

I got a hippy chick water proof sheet op. They are a bit more expensive but they're nice and soft and non-rustley!

lilyaldrin Fri 03-Jan-14 23:59:17

Get some disposable bed mats - I put them on top of the sheet (DS didn't seem to mind) so no washing, though you can layer sheets and bed mats so if there is an accident in the night you can just take off the top layer and there is a fresh one underneath.

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