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March 2016: the one where Indomitable gives birth...

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vroc81 Wed 30-Mar-16 23:17:55

I hope I haven't duplicated a new March thread in my sleep deprived state.. Went to reply and found thread was full!..

vroc81 Wed 30-Mar-16 23:29:03

Congratulations Magpie hope everything is going well!

flowers to all those struggling with sleep, bum and boob pain.

I was going to ask about wind (Her not me..) but all the talk of vomit has partly of answered my question, she's a bit squeaky at night and I think it's trapped wind, I've been making sure she's well winded and circling her legs back up to her stomach, anything else I can do to help?

We had a bit of a break through today, almost such a successful breakthrough i put it down to some form of witchcraft.. Went to the BF clinic and the midwife had her latched on and feeding properly in about two minutes of working with us, and what's more I've actually managed to repeat it at home! smile I have no idea what we are suddenly doing differently but after a week of messing around following snipets of advice from every passing midwife I finally feel like we might be getting somewhere... I think I'll need to carry on pumping for a bit as the technique she's given me involves a bit of boob/bottle flipping but having declared to DH yesterday I was giving it to 6 weeks before giving up I'm feeling a bit better about it all.

MrsElls Thu 31-Mar-16 01:18:46

Thanks for the new thread vroc, lets hope the title turns out to be accurate!

I'm really pleased you have had a bd breakthrough, fx it only gets better from here. The only other wind relief technique we use is the fireman's carry where essentially you hold them upside down over your shoulder and roll their stomach over your shoulder. I was always too scared to do it but dh had some success with ds this way.

RhubarbAndMustard Thu 31-Mar-16 02:29:00

Thanks for the thread vroc, loving the title! And good news on your BF breakthrough. Just shows how important good support and advice really is.

marmiteandcheeseplease Thu 31-Mar-16 04:37:51

Thanks for starting new thread vroc and congrats on your bf breakthrough. I also feel like am getting there somewhere with latch though still think E needs to grow a bit to be able to open her mouth wider.

Terrible night in this house - E up to feed at 12, 2 and now 4. DD1 up twice and DP has gone to sleep in her bed so isn't around to do nappy changes either. Thankfully DD1 is in nursery tomorrow as me and DP aren't going to be good for anything!

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 06:56:29

grin Morning! I just noticed I posted the 1000th post on the last thread, and then found this new one with my name in the title!

Thanks vroc!

I don't think it's ever going to happen though, MrsE! Can you elaborate on that firman's hold (y'know, in case there actually is a baby in there) - I haven't heard of that one.

40+8 now. Need to book for another sweep tomorrow.

Does anyone know if there's any contra-indication of having an induction with a previous 3rd degree tear and a mahoosive 90th centile baby? Will I get to talk to the consultant in advance, do you think? (Bit concerned as it'll be booked on Friday for Monday).

Sorry you've had a tough night, marmite.

MrsBenWyatt Thu 31-Mar-16 07:35:48

Great news on the BFing Vroc.

Sorry about the bad night Magpie - hope you manage a bit of rest today.

Good to see you, Indom. You will definitely be having a baby on this thread!

All going well here. Ted was 4 weeks old yesterday and is becoming really smiley!

magpiedreams Thu 31-Mar-16 07:36:32

Great thread title vroc!

indom sorry you're still pregnant...I was convinced I would be last, you've had loads of BH, show etc for ages, so surely your body is totally ready when it does happen. I don't think induction is contraindicated from the history you describe, but yes you should be able to discuss with a consultant if you wish, and elective section is an option - maternal choice n all that.

Sorry to hear about all the sicky babies. I had one sicky one then a dry one which completely shocked me - didn't have to change the crib sheet multiple times a day etc! And Thomas is looking like being another windy, sicky one which I predicted from the amount of hiccups he had before he was born - just like DC1. 'Tiger in the tree' hold was good for settling him, folded muslin under their head in bed so you don't have to move them and change the sheet if they vom but stay asleep, buy washing powder in bulk. They're my main tips from what I remember.

T was really unsettled at the start of the night and then I swaddled him and he was a dream baby for the rest of the night. Phew. He's waking up more and getting hungry so I'm predicting a fraught day or two now until my milk comes in.

marmite what's happening about E's feet? Partly asking as the T's are very turned and the MW wasn't sure if it's just positional or will need treatment, waiting until GP check tomorrow to see what he thinks. I'm frantically massaging them in the right direction whenever I can.

BeautifulLiar Thu 31-Mar-16 07:50:43

Love the thread title!

Bad morning here. I fell out with the 3 yo last night. Wasted £12 on a takeaway I had to bin because as usual Nancy screamed through my dinner but of course DH isn't here to hold her and it was impossible to do that and eat my food.

I text DH about 6:30pm saying I wasn't having a good day and he's only just replied. That's really upset me.

Then Nancy was unsettled in the night which doesn't really happen. This morning she hasn't slept yet and just kept screaming at me. I was just thinking "pleeeeease shut up" and then when I did pick her up she was sick and absolutely soaked through with piss and shit sad no wonder she was crying so much. I feel so guilty sad

MrsElls Thu 31-Mar-16 08:08:25

indom if you imagine how a fireman carries a damsel in distress over his shoulder with their head down his back and the damsel's tummy on his shoulder you put baby in that position and then rock so the shoulder massages the wind out. I was always worried about dropping ds on his head but dh used to do it to him with some success.

Mrsb Ted has a super cute smile!

Beaut don't feel guilty we all have moments when you just have to leave them for five minutes.

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 08:09:11

<hugs> Beaut, tough night.

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 08:10:10

Thanks MrsE, I'll remember that one.

Purpleprickles Thu 31-Mar-16 08:22:32

Thanks Vroc for the thread.

Beaut sorry to hear you had a bad night. When is your dh back? I am in admiration of you coping alone with 4 as I still haven't done that with 2. Have some brew because it's s bit early for winewine

Sorry to hear about the other unsettled nights. We actually had a better night here. We had been taking E downstairs to feed in the night which was a mad routine we 'd got into and never did with ds. I decided to end it last night so we fed her upstairs each time and put her straight back into her basket and it worked. She also did one stint of four hours which is rare so I'm feeling refreshed with a hint of knackered rather than hit by a train knackered.

MyNameIsSuz Thu 31-Mar-16 08:27:49

Thanks for the new thread vroc!

magpie we've had a referral for Sylvie's feet - the midwife thought hers was positional too but referred her for a hip scan at the orthopaedic hospital as it's their policy to do that when there is anything wrong with the feet. At the hip scan it was picked up that it probably wouldn't self correct and they're going to send us another appointment to get plaster booties put on. Has your midwife referred you? Ours was really quick and she was seen at 6 days old, they phoned in the morning with an appointment for the same day.

Sorry to everyone dealing with pukey babies, ds had reflux and it was awful. Our standards were lowered enough that if an item of clothing only had one or two bits of sick on it we felt it was as good as clean!

I'm getting muddled with feeding and what I'm supposed to be doing. We had a couple of days where she's slept really well and gone three hours between feeds, then feeds have been really long, meaning we haven't got in eight in 24 hours like we should. If she feeds for two hours with two goes on each boob, does that still count as one feed? Or would five of those be enough in a day? How about a three hour cluster feed in the evening, is that also one of the eight? I feel like I should know what I'm doing but I don't!

BeautifulLiar Thu 31-Mar-16 08:53:53

Thank you, I'm crying even more now, still so sore and itchy "down there" despite seeing the nurse and buying a range of Canesten treatments, the 3yo is being horrible, and I'm being horrible to her, just want to run away!

Purple thank you, that's really sweet. I've made a brew, forgot about wine actually but I get tipsy SO easily and Nancy sleeps in my bed so I'm too scared to drink sad DH is apparently back tomorrow night but I take it with a pinch of salt as it always changes. He's probably working the weekend anyway.

And I've got to take them to the beauty salon later to get my gel nails removed...!

magpiedreams Thu 31-Mar-16 08:57:40

Thanks suz, sorry marmite, didn't mean to confuse your babies, sleep deprivation having more of an effect than I thought confused! No, she didn't refer but said the GP will tomorrow if he's concerned. I keep massaging them meantime...!

beaut that does sound crap. Moan away, you're a hero already.

Woodenmouse Thu 31-Mar-16 09:11:16

Thanks for the new thread vroc

beaut that sounds awful how are you now? flowers

Come on indom only today left!!!

MrsBenWyatt Thu 31-Mar-16 09:13:54

Beaut sorry you had a tough day. I am finding it hard enough with three kids from 8-5, never mind four of them all day and night. You are superwoman!

I know it'll be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, but have you got a sling? I just got a Close Caboo and it's magic. Ted slept for two hours in it yesterday so I could tidy up and play with the older two. Today I put him in it and managed to get tea in slow cooker ready for tonight.

I'm sure you'll have tried it already, but having my hands free has made life much more bearable.

RhubarbAndMustard Thu 31-Mar-16 09:39:22

I've got a question about the Close Caboo. Is it supposed to support baby's neck? I've tried him in it twice now and his head just flops backwards, so I'm scared to move my hand, defeating the point. I'm following YouTube clips for putting it on but must be doing something wrong.

Thank you to those that said about saline drops. J is now sleeping 'like a baby'!

MrsBenWyatt Thu 31-Mar-16 09:48:26

Rhu for newborns, you are supposed to tilt their head to one side and put it against your chest (this is for up to four months and for any age baby who has fallen asleep). You then tuck the head into the closest piece of fabric. After that, tie the wrap round your waist, just under the nape of baby's neck.

Head like in the pic!

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 10:07:36

Yo folks, (esp Beaut this morning), have you seen this thread: beating yourself up!
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2602835-stop-beating-yourself-up

Paperblank Thu 31-Mar-16 10:19:33

<sneaks back in>

Hi y'all....I've been total crap at posting lately. V sorry!!

I have a velcro baby who screams everytime I put her down confused and we are also struggling with the witching hour and colic!

Hope you're all okay and coping with your gorgeous newborns.

Indom FX that your LO puts in an appearance very soon x

Right - best go and sterile some bottles (one handed!!)

QforCucumber Thu 31-Mar-16 10:41:56

Hi all,
indom looks like the stage is now yours, will be very disappointed if your baby doesn't arrive on your named thread grin

Had Rory to the gp as he is full of cold too but refused to feed for about 9 hours - have recommended I get an aspirator and prescribed saline drops so fingers crossed it all works.

I have a nappy question - currently got him in size 1's, and they seem ok - except for through the night, when I pick him up to feed him he is soaked through, vest, sleepsuits, blanket sad he weighed 10lbs 1oz a couple of days ago. Would you think I should up him to size 2 at that weight? He's not podgy but is very long - 0-3 month sleepsuits are a struggle to stretch his legs in already. He's only 12 bloody days old!!!

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 10:44:56

I've resigned myself to having an April baby! (In fairness, I was in the April group with DS, whose due date was changed to March, but I stayed with the group, so it's only fair that I do the reverse this time!). Also feeling better about it today - could be that I've sent DH and DS out together so I'm not 'pot-watched' all day. (Although DH is being very good and isn't asking how I am every 5 minutes, but is sneaking glances at me instead!)

I also realised its Thursday, and I've made it through a whole week since finishing work. I've also now got plans to clean random things and maybe do a tiny bit of marking.

Paper, you need a wrap/sling/carrier, which won't solve the Velcro-baby thing but might give you a second hand!

IndomitabIe Thu 31-Mar-16 10:45:22

Lol, that sounds like a challenge, Q!

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