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The 6th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - this way ladies.

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FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 17:14:41

Welcome aboard our 6th bus ladies.

FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 17:15:48

Spent ages trying to post a reply, the noticed the thread was at 1000. Goodness.

agnu trust your instincts. One thing I have learnt with dd2 and ds is that my instincts are usually right.
Was it a mw and not a lactation consultant that you saw today then.

I'd be so frustrated with your DH if he was mine, 11 weeks and he thinks you havent been careful about latch. (((Hugs))) and lots of them.

I think only you can decide where you go from here.
But if you want to convince that the cost will be worth it, then you could work out how much you could spent on formula for the next year. Does he know how upset you are?

bringonthetrumpets Fri 09-Aug-13 17:27:57

Yes, to what frus said. Most providers aren't aware there are different types of tt and will only look for the front tie (the midwife I used to apprentice with was the same and didn't know to look for the other types). Trust your instincts and search for a second opinion!

FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 17:34:24

I agree bring the MW that checked frus jnr in hospital before discharge missed his TT and LT. And the GP missed his TT.
And on your side is the fact that you have successfully Breastfed before.
If you decide to push it, time is not on your side, I was told they won't snip it after 16weeks.

peardrop2 Fri 09-Aug-13 17:38:55

Thanks for sending me the link Frus!

Librarina Fri 09-Aug-13 17:46:50

Checking in, too tired to think.
Baby woke up at 5 by throwing up all over herself, my bed and me. She looked very confused then was sad cos she was wet.

Worst bit is that I think it's my fault cos I over fed her, I kept popping my boob in her cos I wanted to sleep!

FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 18:04:45

Don't worry lib I was doing that I ds every morning. Now he thumps me if he doesn't want it, so I change his bum, and go back to sleep.

AGnu Fri 09-Aug-13 18:21:12

Oh dear Lib, that doesn't sound like a fun way to wake up! sad

I wouldn't exactly call DS1's feeding "successful". He ended up being investigated for 'failure to thrive' & was put on high energy formula at 5m. I'm now convinced it was because he's got an undiagnosed PTT too. It's because his feeding was so disastrous that I know how feeding shouldn't be. This time it's worse!

I'm not sure if she's a lactation consultant or not. Her job title is Infant Feeding Specialist Midwife, as is the other lady who's on holiday. Other lady is definitely an IBCLC... Are those the right letters? confused

The cost of formula argument is the one I've used with my mum & will be pointing it out to DH tonight. I'm hoping I can convince DH to let me book an appointment with a private clinic sooner rather than later on the understanding that we can cancel it if being obsessive about the latch doesn't solve things. The last thing I want is to spend ages trying to convince him & then have to wait even longer for an appointment. DS2 is 2 months today so we've got a little time but not loads. I think private providers will do it later than NHS will though.

I'm wondering if we need to do anything about DS1's while we're at it. He's always been dribbly which apparently can be a PTT sign but I don't know how old a child has to be for it to be socially unacceptable for them to dribble constantly! confused I might wait until all his teeth have come in & see if it settles then.


Lorelei353 Fri 09-Aug-13 19:01:23

New bus! Thanks for the link frus.

agnu sorry to hear your appointment didn't go how you wanted it to. So frustrating for you. Good luck convincing your dh.

lib Ick. I've done they too - Over feeding because he wants to sleep.

ds is back to himself today after yesterday' s jabs although Calpol worked its magic last night.

bringonthetrumpets Fri 09-Aug-13 19:57:48

So, little miss major barfed all over me again this morning. I think she just coughs a little too much after choking on some milk and it all comes up. It's really gross. Sorry you have to live through that too Lib and Lor.

Thanks for setting up the new thread frus smile

Took the boys to an indoor playground and there was an in-home daycare provider there with her crew and she had a 4 month baby girl with her in a stroller. She ordered a cheeseburger and was eating it and was just letting this poor baby scream and cry in the stroller. She had a bottle of milk sitting on the table and was just jiggling the stroller while she ate and refused to feed the poor thing. We're talking like 20 minutes-refusing to pick her up or try to console her. I was the next table over and was having let-down after let-down listening to this baby cry and my heart just breaking b/c she wasn't doing anything about it. I even offered to give the baby the bottle myself b/c M was sleeping in her carseat right next to me (the only time, go figure) and the woman just looked at me and said "she's fine". It was so distressing and makes me terrified to leave my kids with someone for fear that they could be left like that!

bringonthetrumpets Fri 09-Aug-13 20:30:28

Annnnnnd she just upchucked on me again. This time it came without a choking warning, she was sleeping on me and just woke up to puke all down my shirt and then promptly fell back asleep. <big sigh> Let the elimination diet commence.

FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 20:56:28

Don't you just love that warm feeling running down your back bring frus jnr possets to various degrees after most feeds. I hear this wet gurgly noise and then bleugh.

peardrop2 Fri 09-Aug-13 22:12:17

Ewwww I don't like the warm feeling :-/ I've decided bolognase that's the culprit :-( Must be all the tomatoes in it!

FrussoHathor Fri 09-Aug-13 22:22:39

I don't like it either pear. I'm just ridiculously used to it, it's more of a familiar feeling.

peardrop2 Fri 09-Aug-13 22:49:37

I've sprinkled lavender drops on our bed sheets like a mad lady in hope that we get a better nights sleep tonight :-) my room smells like an old persons sock draw :-/

bringonthetrumpets Sat 10-Aug-13 04:11:19

It really is something to be said about! Mmmm, nice. It's still the projectile-shooting-out-through-the-nose-and-mouth kind. confused.

I love lavender pear <goes to check that I don't smell like an old person's sock drawer>

Signing up for a 5k run. So excited to start running again!

peardrop2 Sat 10-Aug-13 07:43:18

I can happily confirm that the lavender drops worked and we're back on track. 9:30 - 2:30 and 3 - 6am. TG!

Bring have you lost the plot? You're amazing to sign up to 5k with 3 bundles of joy on your plate :-)

AGnu Sat 10-Aug-13 08:18:43

pear She probably does 5km a day anyway chasing after them all! wink

DS2 slept for 8 hours last night & the best bit is that I slept for most of that time too! We kept him up so we could both poke at his mouth so he went to bed just before I did. I think once I wake up properly & have something to drink I'll feel better. Not used to going this long without fluid!

I've got a posseting baby too written as he pukes down my arm! I'm hoping to see some improvement if/when we get his 'imaginary' PTT cut. Frus how are you getting on now? Is his lip-tie causing you problems? I've discovered that there's someone in London who cuts them. Not sure if we're going to go for that or if we'll get his PTT sorted & hope for the best. I'm picking my battles with DH at the moment!

peardrop2 Sat 10-Aug-13 09:18:30

AGNU do you live down south? You can pay hospitals £80 to do them. Did you know?

FrussoHathor Sat 10-Aug-13 10:51:23

His top lip can flange now that his lower jaw has more movement and he can open his mouth wide enough to do it.

FrussoHathor Sat 10-Aug-13 11:08:18

Aaaaaaaahhhh grrrrrrrrr #~%#%$*#~>$+[.

As you were. I'm going back to bed.

bringonthetrumpets Sat 10-Aug-13 14:04:40

AIBU to think that you don't get to sleep in if you decide to go out until 3 am and play poker (ahem, dh). It's the weekend. Toughen up, love, you get to take care of the kids too. Fucking men, I tell you! <wails> I hate weekends!!!!!

A 5k is a way to make sure I get to get out of the house everyday to run by myself while dh gets to take care of children. I have lost the plot if that's the only guaranteed way that I get 30 minutes to myself (I lost the plot a long time ago when I thought that getting married was a good idea hmm)

kittykatsforever Sat 10-Aug-13 15:05:06

Totally not unreasonable at all being unless birthday or previously agreed and offered another night for you!
The men folk do piss me off like that, it's as though the kids arnt their responsibility all the time, they get to pick when it suits?!
Missed the new bus, hadnt checked inbox or fb plus found cycle 15 of Americas next too model on sky and have become addicted, yes I like that kind of trash
Sorry to hear the app didn't go well Agnu, how frustrating! Not sure what I'd suggest except like you say if your going to get a second opinion is want it sooner then later
Pear glad to hear your night was back on track, I have heard to motors are a problem food!
Sorry for the sickies, I too had some last night but just a trickle but yes to icky warm down your back
Kitten still doing well on sleep, we've had 3 nights of 7-6 and 2 in between 7-4:30/5

FrussoHathor Sat 10-Aug-13 15:53:36

Yanbu bring
I like your plot loosing techniques. I got frus-dog as a way of getting time to myself by walking him, but he's just as needy and hard work and mess creating as the rest of them. <rolls eyes at the 6 chiwawas worth of fur that has been dumped on the floor in the past day alone>

Aibu to expect to be able to take ds back to bed during the day for more than 1.5 hours? DH gets to take naps all the time when he wants. I haven't had an hour alone (1xmovies doesn't count as DH was there) since I the day before frus jr was born. Im knackered and DH wonders why I'm stroppy. hmm

I've now managed to sulk DH into having the dcs whilst I have a much needed I stink bath alone. Before he goes to work. And I have to face the bedtime mayhem alone again I hate DH working evenings but we need the extra money this month.

Oh and I'm pretty sure ds has hit the start of his 12wk growth spurt. I feel like a dairy cow. I shall wear black and white and call myself daisy.

FrussoHathorAKADaisythecow Sat 10-Aug-13 16:00:34


Glad you found the bus kitty

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