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March 2013: Smiles, sleep & excellent feeding.....the thread of wishful thinking!

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SoYo Tue 07-May-13 21:52:31

Well we may as well start the thread on a positive note before the grumbling about the little darlings begins!!!

SoYo Wed 08-May-13 18:31:37

Completely understand Rainbow, that would change your outlook & perspective on everything forever. smile

Wing the IUD has no hormones, lasts 4-7yrs (depending on type), works by making the uterus a hostile environment for sperm but has a 1-3% failure rate and can make your periods much heavier. IUS is progesterone only, makes 97% of people's periods lighter and shorter (40% stop completely) but can be irregular for first 3-6months. Rare side effects (less than 10% of people) are lower libido & spots, old progesterone contraceptives caused weight gain but a big study done on implant and mirena showed none I'd you didn't eat more (makes sense!). It's the quickest hormonal form for fertility returning after removal and lasts 5yrs. As a contraceptive it's 99.97% effective (better than sterilisation). I found the first fitting really painful for 48hrs but second one was fine and I was 19 for first one. If you're worried you wouldn't get on with it maybe try cerazette (the progesterone only pill with lowest side effects). This has less of an effect on periods & slightly more side effects but is obviously easier to stop & if you get on with that you should be fine with mirena or implant. The only progesterone one I wouldn't recommend is the drop injections as it has a much higher side effect rate & can make your periods very irregular.

That was a very long post but quite nice to use my work brain for 5mins!

StormyBrid Wed 08-May-13 18:43:39

SoYo I had to laugh at the idea of cerazette having little effect on periods. I had a light period for nine months on the sodding stuff. And I don't trust the coil as my impending nephew or niece was conceived with one in!

WingDefence Wed 08-May-13 18:45:47

SoYo that's a great amount of info - what do you do?!

If any of you want to know about accounting or auditing standards, I'm your gal grin

plonko Wed 08-May-13 18:48:03

Wing I'm pill all the way, but I must have been on about 4 different ones before I found one that didn't give me migraines/spots/symptoms of depression. I had an implant when I was 19 and hated the goddamn thing. Got a prescription today for Femodette (combined pill) because the doctor doing DS's jabs laughed when I told him we were using the withdrawal method grin

Worsester sleepy yet? DS is a grumpy little bugger when awake now. Slightly apprehensive about the night ahead! Looks like he's decided to sack off the bedtime routine as he's not even awake right now...

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 19:30:18

My contraception plan is not having sex! Nipple thrush is a passion killer. I found I wasn't up for it at all last time until I stopped breastfeeding!

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 19:31:43

Yep, started a bit grumpy, lots of sleep though for 24 hours, finally seeming to be back to her old self now. Old self for dd is still moderately cranky!

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 19:33:29

Wingd . I feel we must have much in common. We both already have sons who we breastfeed a bit and now daughters who love the boob. I also play wing defence in netball and I am an accountant!

plonko Wed 08-May-13 19:46:40

Eig grin that last post really made me smile. By the way, I'm a qualified wine salesperson, so if you need any tips...

DS is so sleepy. And a bit peaky looking. I found holding him still for the jabs easy, but this is breaking my heart a bit. He's too sleepy to feed properly - and his default setting is hungry, smiley. On the other hand, I think he might sleep through.

KFFOREVER Wed 08-May-13 20:11:21

Hi ladies. Just wanted to pop in and say hi. Been a lurker but never had time or energy to join in. My iron has been very low since the birth of DS so ive really struggled with caring for ds and trying to carry on with normal living. Sleepless nights dont help. My DS is 8wks. He had jabs today and hes clingy grumpy. I think we have a long night ahead. I cant promise i will be a regular on here but just wanted to congratulate you all on your new arrivals and well done. I never could imagine how hard it could be caring for a newborn.

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 20:26:09

plonko we had the same issue last night, too tired to feed, tonight however we are starving. 4 ounces and both boobs ( and they were full as I was a bit engorged as she didn't feed as well before) and still going!

WingDefence Wed 08-May-13 20:29:40

Eig are you my double MN sockpuppet? wink

I have to say that my boobs, as lovely and large as they are now, do put me off The Sex somewhat as I'm worried about leaking and so I'd want to keep my bra on, poor DH. But having had a low libido while pg I do want to start up again pretty soon.

plonko that's good to know and also explains your NN!

Welcome kfforever smile Sorry to hear you've been having a rough time of it. Sharing on here does help though.

Well DD was v tired and didn't take any of her bottle from DH earlier but was falling asleep on me so I thought I'd swaddle her, being her upstairs and feed her before putting her down now for the night instead of having her sleep on me until her last feed. When I started writing this post it had worked but she's just got her arms out and is preparing to cry... Best go hmm

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 20:30:19

KF welcome, I know it's harder than people tell you but it gets better and it's lovey being on here and sharing stuff as we are all at the same ish point. having a low iron count makes it very tough. big hug.

Dd has finally got some colour tonight. plonko imagine how much more it would break your heart if little one got one of these diseases for real.... That's what I tell myself anyway...

Eigmum Wed 08-May-13 20:39:19

Wingd I am your double only not as good with icons! I had no sex drive at all while pregnant, 18 weeks of vomiting also being a passion killer, it's up there with nipple thrush and hard to say which is worse! So dh reminded me we haven't had sex since dd was conceived so if i breastfeed as planned to three months then that's 12 months of no sex. I hadn't even realized that til he mentioned it... Too busy throwing up, holding a job down, caring fr a toddler and now a newborn to even notice , oops. Better make some effort next month....

worsestershiresauce Wed 08-May-13 21:15:58

Plonko - smallest person isn't just sleepy she is utterly zonked out, and I hate to say it, but it's freaking me out. I'm so used to her stropping all evening that this current situation feels eerily quiet. I must have been in 50 times already to check she is breathing blush Glad I was warned or I'd be a basket case by now grin

SoYo Wed 08-May-13 21:29:13

Stormy when I said it had little effect on periods I meant little good effect like mirena has! That's what happened to me on depo injections & I got fat & spotty. Urgh.

Plonko I could absolutely use your expertise, which is the best value & which is the nicest NZSB (to be fair I like most) & where can I buy Astrolabe? God I love wine

Wing I'm an obs & gynae registrar it's my MN guilty secret so you have to promise not to tell!

As for you two accountants I daren't even look at my bank balance (it was already a little depleted at the start of mat leave after too many baby purchases) but when I do I'm sure I'll need you.

Has anyone managed to implement a bedtime before yours in what was previously the witching hour? I currently have no routine at all & am letting Madam do everything on demand but I think an hour to myself in the evening might keep me a bit more sane the rest of the time as I think I'm starting to loo my sense of humour!

SoYo Wed 08-May-13 21:31:02

As fOr the sex question, I asked DH when he thought we'd have sex again (I'm not in any rush) & he answered "when it appeals more than anap, so it could be a while!"

SoYo Wed 08-May-13 21:31:24

That should say A NAP not anap

leniwhite Wed 08-May-13 23:10:15

Hava, Wing - you said 'to cut a log story short'! God I'm getting worse...

Ah sex... We've had a little dabble, followed by a panic about the idea we'd forgotten to use any form of contraception because we'd not done either sex or contraception for ages! I was the raging horn monster in my second trimester - literally. Now having either a period or a bleed from levonelle. Felt like a bit of a twat explaining to my gp that i needed it, like being a teenager all over again...

Gp also gave me cerazette without really asking if i wanted it. She just said 'don't you want the coil?' And then when I declined she wrote the script for the pill. I'm reticent as it kills my libido completely and OH and I REALLY need to get it back on track now we've got through the ivf.

Had a lovely day today, saw my DF, who did the usual repeating of the sane stories as last time, and making us go to show the baby to his mate in a shop with a parrot and two snakes (?). Then visited OH's childhood ex who I've also known since she was a teenager and whose mum is an HV (she's moved back home after suffering depression) and weighed DS - he started at 7lbs 2 at birth almost 6 weeks ago and is now 9lbs 9! What a fatty shock felt nice to feed him there and talk about BF stuff with someone who deals with new mums everyday but is also a friend. So I'm getting there with feeding in front of people now, quite proud of myself.

Think DS got a bit overwhelmed by all the new sights/sounds/faces, all grisly by the end of it. Currently asleep with half my nipple in his mouth.

So everyone has useful skills - unless anyone needs some music written I'm no use at all!

Need some recommendations for nursing tops - anyone tried any brands?

leniwhite Wed 08-May-13 23:10:43

I meant 'haha' obviously

KFFOREVER Wed 08-May-13 23:17:26

Worse- mine is zonked out too well he was until he became hungry. Hope he goes back to sleep after.

Sex? Whats that? Lol

My guilty secret is that im a social worker. please dont run away from me

leniwhite Wed 08-May-13 23:17:46

Ooo and those BFing have you seen breastfeeding network site? Some really useful factsheets about meds and milk and they have a service where you can call up and a pharmacist tells you if you can take any medication. Even stuff that hasn't been officially tested. Plus i found out BM keeps for 6 hours fresh when not in the fridge grin

pudtat Thu 09-May-13 03:16:48

Hmmm, contraception. We tried to get a condom on the other day and failed - that really does make you feel like a teenager! So have been sensible and avoided the actual deed. However, DH would like to try! Have been speaking to gp and checking out FPA website on her rec since. Was on Cerazette before but as I think I said down thread, this left my libido on the floor which caused us some issues. It picked up shortly after I stopped taking it and read Fifty Shades although wasn't great after early weeks of pg. I asked about other mini pill options but wasn't keen to hear reliability up to 3% less (can't be on combined as bf and other issues). Considering IUS although wondering if hormone will have same effect, or IUD but less effective apparently. Tis a minefield.

pudtat Thu 09-May-13 03:24:36

Interesting Leni. I've just been on Kellymom panicking that my milks drying up as boobs not getting engorged so much any more. While this is possible ( I'm off the Domperidone now and some people need to keep taking it) it seems this could also be normal, so fx.

Picking up Real Nappy trial bin tomorrow (one month trial offered by the council) so wish me luck!

SoYo Thu 09-May-13 03:50:24

Yay, first post-3am waking for a week! Think tonight's nice cold room has helped.

Pud official line is if one has affected libido they all may, personal experience is mine was much lower on depo & cerazette & completely five on IUS which I assume is because the dose is lower. If you're worried & your periods aren't usually too heavy why not try IUD with no hormones?

SoYo Thu 09-May-13 03:54:33

Spoke too soon,transfer fail.

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