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Suzanne Evans sacked as Ukip spokesperson

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claig Fri 19-Jun-15 01:01:19

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/suzanne-evans-sacked-as-ukip-spokesperson-after-labelling-nigel-farage-a-very-divisive-character-10330417.html

claig Fri 19-Jun-15 16:18:59

Now she has been unsacked

"Ukip 'unsack' Suzanne Evans after cutting ties over comments about Nigel Farage"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-unsack-suzanne-evans-after-5913161

UKIP are starting to look like a joke. The elite are loving this, setting it all up and laughing their heads off as they try to make UKIP voters give up hope and return to support the modernisers in their modernisation crusade.

Isitmebut Mon 22-Jun-15 13:19:34

Farage like every extreme nationalist of the 1930's i.e. Germany, Italy and China, wants to be beyond criticism and will sacrifice anyone who disses him.

The fact was Suzanne who he had built up so high, even named as his preferred successor, appeared to criticise him - but her "divisive" quote was taken out of context, which if I remember rightly watching the programme was qualified with a 'to some' - so she should be grateful UKIP doesn't (yet) have execution squads, as the mistake wouldn't have come to light quick enough.

Suzanne is meant to have the female appeal that Farage, in the main doesn't, so nearly yet another UKIP 'own goal'.

claig Mon 22-Jun-15 19:17:32

'The fact was Suzanne who he had built up so high, even named as his preferred successor'

I like Farage but I do occasionally have my doubts abut even him and wonder whether he is in with the rest of the Establishment. How he could have backed politically correct Suzanne Evans above someone with real UKIP instincts who is really ble to take it to them like Paul Nuttall amazes me, unless he is in with the PPEs.

It's one hell of a ride in UKIP. The game continues, where the cookie will crumble is anyone's guess. There are more ex-Conservative moles, PPEs and Establishment moles in UKIP than in the Wind in the Willows. Will the people be tricked? Is a PPE having a laugh? We don't know yet.

STIDW Mon 22-Jun-15 22:25:17

It may all be academic if media reports were correct this weekend and UKIP has lost control of it's finances so their election expenses can't be paid!

Isitmebut Tue 23-Jun-15 12:51:20

"There are more ex-Conservative moles, PPEs and Establishment moles in UKIP than in the Wind in the Willows. Will the people be tricked?"

UKIP's internal Farage ego 'stuff', with staff coming, going, and coming back again, and its the Conservative's fault? lol

Blame 'bloody Thatcher', everyone else does.

As to UKIP's finances, don't worry, Farage can fund his party/elections via expenses. lol
www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage

“The leader of the UK Independence party (Ukip), which wants to lead Britain out of the EU, has taken £2m of taxpayers' money in expenses and allowances as a member of the European Parliament, on top of his £64,000 a year salary.”

Isitmebut Wed 24-Jun-15 16:05:53

Still, it's good to know that Suzanne Evans is 'back' as she fascinates me.

The way she puckers up her lips when she speaks, its like being spoken to by a cats rear end e.g. brown tea towel holder....which may explain wot comes out. lol

STIDW Thu 25-Jun-15 00:48:59

Isitmebut wrote;

Blame 'bloody Thatcher', everyone else does.

But she was responsible for deregulating the banks and even Nigel Lawson admitted the 2007-2012 financial crisis was an unintended consequence of that deregulation.

www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b00qbxwj

Isitmebut Thu 25-Jun-15 08:31:50

STIWD …… see what I mean, people just can’t resist it, blame ‘bloody Thatcher’ - in this case for a financial crash that began in the U.S. due to over lending to the poorest in society via Sub Prime mortgages – a practise that had been around (and been fine) from the 1930’s. lol

Excuse me, the sound has been broken on this computer for a while, but I see that the radio link you provided has “Glass Steagall” on it, which was a U.S. Act in 1933, after the great Wall Street Crash a few years before, which basically separated high street banking from investment banking (to protect the former).

Now the repeal of that 1933 Act link to the late 2007 financial crash can strongly be argued (as below), but you do know Thatcher left office around 1990 and banking was let loose in the late 1990’s???

“Repeal of U.S. Glass-Steagall Act (1933) Caused the (2008) Financial Crisis”
www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/08/27/repeal-of-glass-steagall-caused-the-financial-crisis

”In fact, the financial crisis might not have happened at all but for the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banking for seven decades. If there is any hope of avoiding another meltdown, it's critical to understand why Glass-Steagall repeal helped to cause the crisis.”

In 1997 Bank Mortgage lending was £21 billion a year, by late 2007 it was £115 billion a year – as a Labour government used the excuse of an America deregulating its banking market, to loosen our domestic banking controls – by taking sole responsibility away from the Bank of England around 1998, and giving it to Brown’s newly formed regulator, the FSA.

Brown admits in the link below that he did not understand the obvious, that the global banking system was so interconnected (via the interbank money market etc) that there was a huge risk of financial contagion if ‘stuff’ hit the financial fan elsewhere.

metro.co.uk/2011/04/11/gordon-brown-i-made-big-mistake-on-banks-before-financial-crisis-650630/

Furthermore, as Labour/Brown’s instructions to their new government kiss arse regulator was to allow that huge growth in UK bank lending, that they were directly responsible for the EXTENT of damage done to the UK banking system - and (I’d suggest) our economic ability to bounce back via a broken financial transmission of lending to businesses/citizens needing it after and recession - never mind the worst in over 80-years.

www.theguardian.com/business/2011/dec/12/labour-regulations-city-rbs-collapse

If I have not got the point of that radio link please enlighten me, but currently the way I see it, if Glass Steagall was the main point, Thatcher is owed yet another apology. lol

JassyRadlett Thu 25-Jun-15 08:52:07

Evans is on QT tonight - worth a watch, looks like an interesting panel...

STIDW Sun 28-Jun-15 02:34:18

Isitmebut wrote;

Furthermore, as Labour/Brown’s instructions to their new government kiss arse regulator was to allow that huge growth in UK bank lending, that they were directly responsible for the EXTENT of damage done to the UK banking system

Brown admitted mistakes;

"We know in retrospect what we missed. We set up the Financial Services Authority (FSA) believing that the problem would come from the failure of an individual institution," he said. "So we created a monitoring system which was looking at individual institutions. That was the big mistake. We didn't understand how risk was spread across the system, we didn't understand the entanglements of different institutions with the other and we didn't understand even though we talked about it just how global things were, including a shadow banking system as well as a banking system. That was our mistake, but I'm afraid it was a mistake made by just about everybody who was in the regulatory business."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013

So Thatcher, Brown and global economics all played their part in the UK banking crisis. Perhaps we should learn lessons from Canada where the financial institutions weathered the global financial crisis so much better.

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