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The other side of Welfare

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Leithlurker Sat 20-Jul-13 09:09:13

I am increasingly angered by the "We have no money" routine that the austerity supporters, seem to cleve so dearly to.

Likewise the many, many threads on MN that are disabelist, anti working class, wilfully ignorant, and just plain bigoted especially against people who have any ind of illness or disability. I see these threads all over MN not just in politics, chat, or AIBU. In fact I wear as a badge of pride my last deleted post on a relationship thread where someone wanted to be told it was fine to belittle, and undermine their partner as she did not believe HIM, when he said he was depressed.

In response, and since in particular the welfare jealous, the "disabled people should work if "Stephen Hawkins can" brigade, those that think that disabled people have far too many rights and privileges, and in fact for the majority of people in society who think disability is all about wheelchaires and guide dogs, those groups allways stop short of saying what it is that they want to see happen. Well let me help them by giving you all a look at an article, it makes it clear, that Language is a tool of the mind, people can tell pretty much what you think by the way you say things, at least Colin Brewer made clear what we in the disability community have known for a long time.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 09:26:25

Your post was deleted because you called the member a 'disgusting bitch', or something similarly offensive and against the rules of engagement on MN message boards.

Leithlurker Sat 20-Jul-13 09:39:00

You are making that up cogs, never used the word "bitch", if your going to try and derail at least get your facts right. I doubt I used the word "disgusting" but I am less sure, what I did say though was that she was WRONG for not entertaining the idea that her partner was indeed ill with depression, and her attitude was likely to make him worse.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 10:18:31

I'm not trying to derail at all. However, in the rough and tumble of an MN message board, it takes a lot to get a post deleted and I think you're being disingenuous trying to make out it was because of your opinions. If you'd merely said it was 'wrong' the post would have not got reported.

Leithlurker Sat 20-Jul-13 11:22:46

It was deleted probably because someone complained, the complaint was based on the fact that I had been "not nice" to someone, choosing to tell them. Despite the OP and other posters on that thread being deliberately disrespectful to someone who is not even their and who has probably got a mental health problem.

"No hes an entitled hypochondrical lazy shite"

A direct quote from another of the posters including yourself cogs who did not bother to challenge the OP language or attitude.

This takes us back to the article I linked to, the casual disbelief of those with disabilities or long term health problems leads to firstly the mindset that those who have not got an obvious disability are all faking it, or putting it on. Which in turn allows for the thinking that was espoused buy Colin Brewer.

"Lazy Shite" = Wast of space = Kill the Bastard.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 11:48:48

I remember you because it was I that reported your post. If you're trying to challenge 'casual disbelief' of mental health issues on the grounds that 'language is a tool of the mind' I really don't think it helps your case if you immediately stoop to profanities. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 11:50:05

BTW... if you don't like the language or attitude of other members, you're fully entitled to report posts yourself.

Leithlurker Sat 20-Jul-13 12:21:47

For not wanting to derail your doing quite nicely, and still no comment on the link I posted, which seems more and more at the heart of your thinking.

BTW, you do know that in the same way I cannot prove my language was profane, which it wasn't. Neither can you prove it was, since you got it deleted! If you have a screen shot do please post it and we can let others judge, but just by saying it was one thing after it was deleted is only your interpretation nothing more.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 13:16:01

It's hardly derailing the thread. You specifically crowed about wearing your 'badge of pride' for getting a comment deleted. I'm simply following up on that statement and pointing out that you got it deleted for breaking the message board rules by using abusive language towards another member. I'll let others 'interpret' whether that weakens any argument you're trying to make in relation to Colin Brewer's opinion.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 20-Jul-13 13:16:50

"people can tell pretty much what you think by the way you say things,"


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