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Please support this petition to change the law re 17 year olds in custody

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Lucycat Mon 11-Mar-13 20:46:30

Can I just raise this issue - I don't want to say too much as I will probably out myself and the focus should be about Joe and his family, suffice to say he was a bright, articulate boy who is sadly missed by his friends and family. Nick and Jane have had lots of publicity in trying to get the law changed so that 17 year olds are treated as children in custody.

This is the link for a petition which is to go to the Home Office

We all miss Joe sad

grants1000 Mon 11-Mar-13 23:32:59

Done, I am in Cheshire, my Auntie lives in Cheadle and my cousin works in a primary school in the area, we talked about this a lot, I will email them the link to pass round.

It's not right what happened to him. My heart goes out to the family.

Lucycat Tue 12-Mar-13 15:48:14

Thank you so much

Lucycat Tue 12-Mar-13 19:55:57

ahem - shameless bump.

ironman Thu 14-Mar-13 10:09:19

I signed the petition and will pass it on for signature. I'm surprised more have not signed. Is the petition on Facebook? That normally gets a good response.
I can't imagine what the family are going throughsad. I have a young son and
it makes you think, I did not know that 17 year old could be held overnight in custody without his parents knowledge. It is outrageous. Has anyone written to David Cameron about this? I know of people who are constituents of his, perhaps they could write and pass on the reply.

Lucycat Thu 14-Mar-13 10:48:54

I'm assuming that it is on facebook but I'm not sure - lots of news through twitter though at #joe.

thank you for passing it on too. smile

Quenelle Thu 14-Mar-13 10:52:56

Very happy to sign and share on FB. I think I heard about Joe on Radio 4 a week or so ago?

Lucycat Thu 14-Mar-13 13:29:56

Quite probably, certainly his mum and dad gave lots on interviews when they launched the campaign.
Just over 4000 signatures needed now so that the petition can go to Theresa May and Damian Green.

Thank you everybody

lrichmondgabber Fri 15-Mar-13 10:54:25

yes we need to reuce suicides among people in custody

Lucycat Fri 15-Mar-13 16:59:03

Joe had been kept overnight in the police cells, hadn't wanted his mum and dad to know as he was embarrased, went home and thought about it for 2 days before concluding - as someone without the benefit of age might do - that he would never have the lfe that he had envisaged for himself before he took his own life on the Saturday night.

please sign this petition.

HillBilly76 Sat 16-Mar-13 00:10:50

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Lucycat Sat 16-Mar-13 14:47:51

It's not just the driving, it could be any child who has been stopped by the police - rightly or not - that can be held and yes they will be asked 'Do you want us to phone ayone?' but some will always say no as they are ashamed or embarrassed.
I would want to know if my child, who still lived at home with me had been arrested.

HillBilly76 Sat 16-Mar-13 16:42:59

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Lucycat Sat 16-Mar-13 16:48:41

I do realise that - they would always be my child however old..... but I think that the real issue is that they are held in custody as an adult but once charged they would be charged as a child.

'This will bring the UK into line with the United Nations Conventions on the rights of the child which state that every person under eighteen must be treated as a child if they are considered such in the eyes of the law of that country' a quote from Joe's page sad

HillBilly76 Sat 16-Mar-13 23:29:06

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Tortington Sat 16-Mar-13 23:39:19

not the issue hillbilly.

I've signed. My son was arrested aged 15 as a cricket ball went through someones window and that person called the police.

he had his dna taken, all possessions, shoelaces, put in a cell.

the police came round and i went to the station. The Police looked after him - he got hot chocolate i seem to remember. But we are a relatively quiet town. in a big town or city, i don't think the police would have the time, and the personable aspect of the police could be lost almost certainly.

DS was very shocked and mortified that i was there. If this was him at 17 - he absolutley wouldn't have phoned me.

Lucycat Sun 17-Mar-13 15:46:21

Thank you Custy smile

Lucycat Thu 28-Mar-13 07:38:22

The petition is going to Downing St today as the petition has reached over 53,000 signatures. Thank you to all who have signed so far. More publicity about the petition on Breakfast News this morning.

Chipstick10 Thu 28-Mar-13 08:12:26

Consider it done.

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