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Does anyone actually, non-ironically, genuinely believe in horoscopes?

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UnquietDad · 06/12/2007 16:25

Because I'd been under the impression that even people who enjoy them know that they are "just a bit of fun", with no basis in fact.

But I've been reading a debate on another forum where someone is actually arguing for real belief in them. Makes me wonder what century we are living in.

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southeastastra · 06/12/2007 22:44

yes i do in a way. they've always been right.

i don't think it's a thing men can understand really.

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UnquietDad · 06/12/2007 23:55

Or perhaps there is nothing to understand?....

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:01

hmm men don't understand it for them

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Niecie · 07/12/2007 00:02

Not the newspaper, fortune-telling type horoscopes but I am keeping an open mind on the part where you have your charts done based on the time and place you are born, to outline your personality.

I once saw a South Bank Show ages ago where two nuns worked out when Jesus was likely to have been born and did his chart and apparently it was a unique, one in a million chart with the famous nativity star in the middle which only comes round very rarely. It was interesting but although I would like to have my birth chart done professionally to see how accurate it is I am not sure how much truth there is in it.

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:09

god you're such a cynic uqd

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EmsMum · 07/12/2007 00:11

No, he's a realist.

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Kathyate6mincepies · 07/12/2007 00:12

The Romans genuinely non-ironically believed in astrology. As did Nancy Reagan.

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fortyplus · 07/12/2007 00:12

'two nuns worked out when Jesus was likely to have been born and did his chart and apparently it was a unique, one in a million chart with the famous nativity star in the middle which only comes round very rarely.'

Bless... that's so sweet... and you believed it...

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:13

and that's such fun

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cornsilk · 07/12/2007 00:14

I don't believe in it. I know loads of people with my birth sign who are nothing like me and our lives are very different.

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:14

you'll all turn into robots - you're so harsh

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EmsMum · 07/12/2007 00:14

Horoscopes are cynically designed to be 'always right'. Did anyone see that thing on TV where a lot of people were presented with 'their' horoscope and loads said it was right... but it wasn't their horoscope at all, the same text was used for everyone regardless of when they were born.

and as they say, theres one born every minute...

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cornsilk · 07/12/2007 00:16

And if you want to believe you will read things into it anyway.

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:16

nah it's fun.

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Kathyate6mincepies · 07/12/2007 00:17

Of course UQD, the only reason we don't believe it is because we are talking about those silly ones in newspapers. If we all had our horoscopes done by professional astrologers we would know it is, in fact, all true.

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S1ur · 07/12/2007 00:18

With UQD here, nothing robotic about it.
Horoscopes have no basis and saying doesn't take all the wonder out of the world. In fact knowing how a rainbow works doesn't stop me going ooooh look dd a rainbow, look! look!

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EmsMum · 07/12/2007 00:18

The Buddhists had their own astrology which I'm sure they genuinely believed in (and probably some still do). But apparently the nice thing about buddhism is that they don't hang on to stuff if its proven to be untrue and the Dali Lama (heavily paraphrased) said, nope, modern science now shows this is all wrong.

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:20

looking on life wihh a scientific output isn't worth nowt anyday *

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fortyplus · 07/12/2007 00:21

Kathyate6mincepies - presume there should be a at the end of your post!

'Professional astrologers'... hmmmm....

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expatinscotland · 07/12/2007 00:21

You mean, as they are in newspaper and magazines here?

No.

I've no experience of otherwise, so I reserve judgement on such.

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EmsMum · 07/12/2007 00:22

I wonder if theres any grown ups who really believe Santa travels round the world on a reindeer sleigh in a night?

santa's fun. astrology is (if you're very easily entertained fun. But grown ups actually believing in either is simply delusional

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southeastastra · 07/12/2007 00:26

i like to believe in outside (space) influences

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EricScrooge · 07/12/2007 00:26

I can't see how my future is determined by where huge lumps of rock in the solar system happened to be when i was born.

It just seems so daft.

I think some less-educated people like to cheer themselves up by dreaming of the nice things that will happen to them without them doing anything.

Bit like playing the lottery i guess.

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fortyplus · 07/12/2007 00:28

Oh it's like all those apparently normal people who go for 'psychic readings' and suchlike. Utter bollox.

I mean... if Psychic Fairs were so great, why do they have to advertise them? Tell me that!

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Niecie · 07/12/2007 00:31

Fortyplus - I don't think I did say I believed it, I said I thought it was interesting.

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