Bible Code: Real or Fake

[Baba]

I read a book called The Bible Code (2) the other day and it frightened me so much, I went to church and asked the Minister if it was real.

She told me to throw the book away but didn't comment on whether it was real or not.

I have looked on the internet but there is no evidence either way, just lots of opinions.

Has anyone read it and if so, does anyone believe it or is worried about its prophecies????

Baba x

[boudicca]

I saw a programme on tv about it,it seemed to suggest that you could make a code from any book that you wanted to .

[lisalisa]

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[Baba]

I didn't read about the image of the end of the world - it must have been in the first book. All I know is that it gives the month and year of the end of the world and the month and year of when all the nuclear stuff is going to happen, two years before.

It predicted Kennedy being assassinated, Saddam Hussain being captured, Bin Laden etc etc.

If it is true, I am only sorry that my ds will never live to fulfill his true potential.

[lisalisa]

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[lisalisa]

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[Baba]

End of Days - Sept 2006.
Start of nuclear stuff - Sept 2004.

They thought it was 2002 but admitted it could have been either 2002 or 2004.

[kalex]

Oh I wish I had not read this, now totally freaked out

[Baba]

sorry. i don't want to believe it, hence the reason why I posted it on here as when I did the research on the internet, the camp seemed to be split into half for real and half a complete fake.

Didn't mean to scare you.
Baba x

[Fio2]

if it is based on the corinthians then most probably total rubbish. Alot of christians do not beleive in the corinthians part of the bible. I know my old RE techer (who was a missionary) told us not to read it as he be;leived it to be written by people on drugs (wacky backy/magic mushrooms)

[Baba]

Its based on the entire bible, in its original text apparently.

[Fio2]

didnt nostradamus say the world was going to end in the millenium from studying the bible? I wouldnt take any notice of it. It is 'specualtion' and people make money out of it.

[lisalisa]

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[kalex]

Does that mean I should continue to pay my pension & not spend all my savings

Sorry but these kind of things really freak me out, My ex H had this book, and it was the first thing I chucked when he left. Hopefully a load of rubbish

[Tinker]

It was completely debunked. Got exactly the same results and prophecies using War and Peace

[mummytojames]

i think the best advice i can give you is there is no exact way to judge the end of the world but always live life tothe full as this could alway be the last

[gothicmama]

playing devils advocate here but tinker does not that prove it alot of different sources all point to the begginning of teh end by 2012 so possible altho the end by the end of teh technological era and everything will continue but in a new way

[muddaofsuburbia]

Yup - definitely a fake - or rather written by a bloke who seems convinced his theories are true, but like others have said, the code can be applied to any other book - not just the Bible. Will have to ask dh about evidence against this "author" cos he's a mine of information about hoax theories like this.

[muddaofsuburbia]

Just found this which applies the "code" to other books. Apperently "Moby Dick" predicted the assassinations of Trotsky and Kennedy....

[bloss]

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[juniper68]

Oh that's ok then at least I'll have been to Florida and back

[Kif]

Fake.

The thing is, they don't properly set 'the rules' of what they are looking for before they start. So it is little better than browsing a random bunch of words, waiting for something that sounds half plausible to come up, then thinking about a 'prediction' that could be fitted. Factor in that there are various ways in which you can translate the texts, and you can see how things can appear to be hidden there when they aren't.

Statisticians have proved that the results have no statistical significance. You could get same thing happennig with any long complicated text - say War and Peace, or Lord of the Rings.

[GeorginaA]

Plus don't forget that the hebrew in the old testament doesn't use vowels - you work out what the word is by the context it is in. Of course, if you get it wrong you can get a hugely different interpretation For the text of the old testament you have a long tradition passed down of what the vowels are, but when random letters of text are chosen for bible codes, then the person running the "test" can choose any combination of vowels they like to "prove" the theory. All highly dubious.

[GeorginaA]

Oh, also hebrew versions of names can vary, so often different versions were used to force it to fit the theory.

[dh40k]

You know, I'm less worried by the Bible Code than I am by your minister telling you to throw the book away.

No true faith can prosper where contradictory opinions and arguments are rejected with such blind totality. We must look back at the Bible, at ourselves and at our knowledge of the world and how it works if we are to appreciate the nature of God and his works.

To answer the question itself - sort of! - let us consider what the Bible purports to be: the Word of God, literal, true and complete. Some would argue with that proposal, but wait and consider this:

God is an infinite, omnipotent and omniscient entity. Such a thing outstrips the capacity of even our amazing minds... and yet the Bible was written by a succession of human beings. Wise, compassionate, focused and devout human beings, yes, but still humans. So the Bible is a human attempt to interpret the experience of an entity that cannot be understood. It's literal, true and complete for a given value of "x" where "x" is reality as we perceive it. And with the progression of our understanding of the universe, "x" moves.

Our Western, liberal democratic, early 21st Century interpretation of the Bible jars substantially with that of our sixteenth century predecessors and all the others before them. Does that mean that we are right and they were wrong, or does it mean that the Bible is such an amazing document that it can be understood differently as humanity evolves socially?

Therefore it seems perfectly reasonable to me that there could be a deeper, hidden meaning in the Bible. But is it going to be a secret, alphanumeric code hidden by the wise ancients? Or is it more likely to be a purer, more perfect understanding of God achieved by an evolving species?

God isn't finished with us yet.

Regards

[gothicmama]

dh40k this makes sense kind of I have always perceived bible as a guide to a way of living your life (altho relevant within it's place and time) but with teachings that are aways going to be relevent such as love thy neighbour and to live in a moral way. so to make any true sense of the bible message is to look deep inside and read it in the context of time and place.