Do you belive in Karma? when do Bullies get their payback and does it pay to be nice?

[overdraft]

I think i used too.Just latley though I have noticed some people that make it their job to be nasty and akward towards others and have the ability to make others miserable.These people also have others that follow them and like them.I have never been a bullies buddy and really can't see the attraction.
Also some really nice people who seem to have all the crap happen to them and I just think why.
I do belive that things that happen are for a reason and It makes you stronger.

[expatinscotland]

No, I don't believe it all. B/c there are a whole lot of prize tossers out there doing very well and happy as larry. One of my ex boyfriends, for example, has made a career out of treating women like less than something on the bottom of his shoe, yet continues to be successful in every way.

[SorenLorensen]

I'd like to...

I do think that some people get far more than their fair share of bad stuff happening to them while others seem to just sail through life, untouched.

But I also think some of the hard knocks can make you a stronger person - that old cliche about what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

I think it's down to how you react to such things - I know someone who has had a really hard life: widowed very young, left with two small children, diagnosed with a dehabilitating and incurable disease a couple of years later. She is very, very bitter and angry - has fallen out with friends and family, and is now very alone and isolated. I know not everyone can keep smiling in the face of adversity but I think there is still joy to be found in life if you can bring yourself to look for it.

As to does it pay to be nice? Yes. Even when people aren't nice back. I sleep better at night knowing I'm not such a bad person

[Auntymandy]

I kind of believe in Karma, why ds3 hits ds4 he usually hurts himself!!
But in the grand scheme of things I have never been nasty to anyone and alot of stuff happens to me!

[SorenLorensen]

And agree with expat too - some people are just rotten through and through. But are they really happy? Will payback come around eventually? Who knows...

[VeniVidiVickiQV]

I tend to think "what goes round comes around".

I think its too simplistic to lump people into the category of being 'a bully'

[expatinscotland]

I think it helps people feel better about themselves when they've been jacked over. But that's about it.

[Chandra]

I used to think bad mean people will get their share back at some point in their life, now, I agree with Expat... they never pay for it, sleep well at night and continue to make the life of other persons misery but just in different ways.

Now, if a bully turns into a bully because it has been bullied before... is bullying a sort of karmic mistake? say some of a negative "pay it forward" with disastrous results?

[VeniVidiVickiQV]

I tend to think that people who do bad things arent actually happy really though, they cant be, not deep down.

Agree with Chandras point on bullied becoming bully which is why i find it too simplistic a term.

[overdraft]

Agree with you on that VeniVidiVickiQV . I have always thought that people that behave badly to others are unhappy. If they were nicer would they become happier though ? It seems some people just get stronger and stronger the more people they trample on to get what they want.

[ItalianJob]

hmmmm I think bullies are people that are "toxic" in that they value other's feelings much less than their own, and are prepared to cause considerable hurt to others to boost their ego. I don't think that all bullies have extenuating life experiences/life circumstances; probably most do, but I think some are just unempathetic unsympathetic people. I think that whilst there isn't always payback, I think that they are losing out in life by certain emotional areas being closed off in terms of connecting with/understanding others.

[expatinscotland]

'I tend to think that people who do bad things arent actually happy really though, they cant be, not deep down. '

Oh, believe you me, having lived w/one, they are perfectly happy. They don't see anything wrong w/their behaviour and even see themselves as clever and self-important b/c they've been able to take advantage of someone.

I kid you not.

I no longer delude myself w/things like, 'Oh, deep down they know they're a bad person and therefore they aren't happy', b/c people like that are honestly not worth wasting ANY energy at all. Best just forgotten as much as possible.

[Chandra]

Agree, perfectly happy, and even unsuspecting about how bad they are.