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fairy Sun 05-Jun-05 23:23:01

Hi

I wonder if anyone can help me, before either I or one of my cats goes mad!

We have lived in our house for about 4 years, big garden, and rural, and the cats love it, well used to!

About 18 months ago, a new cat moved into the street, a Siamese. This cat initially was no bother, used to just walk through the garden and our cats would ignore it. However over the past 8 months our cats lives have been made hell by this cat and in turn ours as well.

This cat have attacked both of our cats, wounded one of them quite badly across his face, poos and wees in our garden, and has sprayed on our patio. It has scared the children, and MIL! Last week it freaked our both DS who is 3 and DH.

DS came up to us in bed at about 8am and told us there was a funny noise in the living-room, so DH went downstairs. It was one of our cats growling and this Siamese who was out on our patio. DH went to shoo it away, but rather than running off, this loony cat went mental at the door and stratching the glass in the door like it was trying to break through!

Then two days later, while putting the children to bed, we were both upstairs, left the back door ajar for the cats to get in, and suddenly one of the cats appeared upstairs with the Siamese directly behind him, spitting and snarling. Freaked out both boys, and we chased it out.

So that is some of the history, and now we are trying to find a solution, we have tried using water pistols, buckets of water, chasing it, squirting it with lemon juice, everything, and nothing works!

Please can someone help us? Please!!!!!!

QueenEagle Sun 05-Jun-05 23:30:08

have you tried a football?

No seriously, do you have a catflap? We fitted one for my cat, one which is activated by a magnetic ball on her collar. We have several very forthright cats in our street who wouldn't think twice about following ours in if it weren't for that. Not too sure what you can do about getting rid of the cats in your garden though, sorry.

JoolsToo Sun 05-Jun-05 23:38:09

QE - you're getting soft in your old age

Chandra Mon 06-Jun-05 02:18:50

That cat is a pest, have you tried to contact the owner?. If he gets into your house again and looks as dangerous as he does from your description.... well, I think I would lock him up in a room and ring the owner, if that didn't work I would ring the city pound (if there's such thing in England...is there?)

assumedname Mon 06-Jun-05 03:30:02

Definitely go with the magnetic catflap.

I presume it's a tom because it sprayed. What about having a word with the owner about getting it neutered? If the owner's approachable, that is.

Weatherwax Mon 06-Jun-05 06:51:09

We have a similar problem with a big black cat, although I will say it is scared of me. We also have a magnetic cat flap but it is always locked at night now as the brut has forced its way in!

My husband is waiting for an oportunity to let the thing come in and then he is planning to scare it witless as we will have the cat flap on in only. We are cat lovers really but the bill for the vets treatment on my second cats head was horendous.

I have no idea who the ownwr of my enemy is, if you do know the siamese's owner I wpuld have a word if you could, I doubt such a vicious creature would breed very well. I know the snip doesn't always stop the spraying but it does sound very agressive and therefore unlikely to have been done!

fairy Mon 06-Jun-05 14:02:45

Thanks to all of you for your replies!

We do know who the owners are, they seem very nice, and maybe that is the problem, they seem too nice! If they were a bit moody and dour I probably would have no problems about approaching them. Also we live in a very small community, and I guess I don't want to rock the boat too much.

We would have fitted a cat flap when we first moved in, if we could have done. Unfortunatly we are the middle of three houses, and our back door is all glass, so not really an option.

I think I will try to pluck up the courage, maybe after school today to speak to the owners, it has to be stopped, as our female cat now is loathed to go out now once it is dark, and we are getting through too much cat litter!

I will keep you all updated, thanks again!

noddyholder Mon 06-Jun-05 14:07:52

we had similar at our old place and it was a siamese too we never managed to sort it.One day I heard a commotion in the hall and it was locked in as we had made our catflap one way only.I went down to let it out and it leapt at me I tried a couple of times and it even picked up our doormat in its paws and tore it right in front of me v scary I had to phone our neighbour and throw keys out the window for her to let it out!Could you speak to the owners although i know cats are impossible to train in these situations Sorry not v helpful but you have my sympathy

bubbaloo Mon 06-Jun-05 14:20:25

think i would turn the hose on or throw a bucket of water over it.
we've got the same problem with a cat coming into our house.he even had the cheek to eat our cats food the other day but he soon goes when he sees me.
also at the mo is the mating season i think,so maybe thats why he's attracted to your house/garden.our female cat went to the vets on saturday for her booster and we were told not only is she suffering from a form of depression at the mo(as she can sense im about to have a baby anyday!),but its currently the mating season and although she's been spade she's hiding alot which apparently is from male cats.
also even if you do have a word with the cats owner i really dont think there's much they can do,after all they cant stop their cat coming into your garden and harrassing yours.
probably not very helpful to you but scaring the cat by shouting works for me.

good luck!!

fairy Mon 06-Jun-05 14:36:34

I think the worst thing has been my guilt!
A couple of weeks ago we didn't see it for a whole week, I thought to myself 'oh dear, something must have happening to it!', and I felt guilty for thinking that.
Well blow me it appeared the next day, maybe it could feel my bad vibes!

robinia Mon 06-Jun-05 14:45:15

You can get cat flaps for glass doors - can't remember where though!

batters Mon 06-Jun-05 14:59:47

This is what I did to a cat who was bothering us, and attacking our cats. And I am a cat lover.

Came back one day to find the next door cat had got in through our cat flap. He had sprayed everywhere, attacked our new kitten, and ripped wallpaper and books. It was the second time in 10 days he had got into the house. I threw a bath towel over the cat, wrapped it round him and put him in the sink and soaked him with water. I then took him out to the garden and let him go.

I also got an electronic cat flap.

The cat was angry with us, but not hurt. He never came back in the garden after that.

bubbaloo Mon 06-Jun-05 15:03:48

good for you batters!!

im also a cat-lover but im also very protective of my own cats.if another cat attacks either of mine they're not going to get away with it.

that cat obviously learnt his lesson and it's payed off.a cat wont usually go where its not welcome.

noddyholder Mon 06-Jun-05 15:10:08

batters do you live in brighton sounds just like ours he tore up papers in the hall!

Prettybird Mon 06-Jun-05 15:29:04

An "entire" Siamese male may well be a handful - and it does sound like he hasn't been "done if he is that aggressive. Although neutering them does not necessarily stop them spraying (our boy cat certainly continued to do so - but apparently it is less smelly), it is supposed to make them more placid.

It would seem strange though if it was a pedigree male Tom being allowed out freely. They are valuable creatures!

Our own (neutered) Siamese, before he died, was defnitiely losing the battle with the oriental (like a Saimese but with different colouring)downstairs. Leo was a big cat, but the cat downstairs was a few years younger. He was defntiely coming off the worst in thier run-ins. Both cats were "done", but that didn't stop them fighting - and water only has a temporary effect.

We also tried the magnetic cat flap (from memory, you can get a version which, by getting the galss properyl cut, can be installed in a glass pain), but both our Siamese aren't used to collars, and we came home one night to a blood bath, the result of Leo's sister getting her mouth and foot (!) caught in the collar trying to take it off).

If nothing else has worked, there is one radically different solution - but first, you would need to talk to the Siamese cat's owners. Turn the problme on its head: get the cats to become friends. Siamese are normally very affecionate, if they are brought up as family cats (although I only have expereince of neutered cats - and male stud cats are a wee bit different!). Can you bring yourselves to go and visit the Siamese in his house? Get to know it? And then maybe take one or both you cats along - and continuing to stroke the Siamese, so that he is reassured that he is "top cat". Normally the fights come when they are trying to establish territory. It's probably not feasible and would take a loooong time, but it is a radical option.

Oh - and by the way, don't, as my dh did, try to separate two male cats (even neutered ones) who are fighting each other in rolling ball of fur and claws. Putting a hand between them results in very deep claw marks and an interesting raised "Y" scar! .

The other thing you could get for your garden to put the cat off is some lion dung - apparently the smell of an even bigger cat pouts them off! Never tried it, but I believe you can get processed pellets or something from pet shops.

fairy Mon 06-Jun-05 16:17:44

Right, just been to see the owner of the Siamese, and I'm no further forward! He has had the 'snip', and the reply was 'well, what can you do about cats?' Argh!

So now I have covered all bases as far as I can see, my MIL has bought me this foam slingshot , maybe I should now try it!

starlover Mon 06-Jun-05 16:23:31

buy a greyhound

Chandra Mon 06-Jun-05 20:38:40

I wish wild animals had so much license as cats, I imagine a rat doing the same than that cat and you will have the council catching it and disposing of it... Hope your mother's gift works! I'm fonder of water filled ballons (only in the outside, obviously and without aiming at the cat )

assumedname Tue 07-Jun-05 00:08:48

Like the slingshot!

batters Tue 07-Jun-05 11:26:24

noddyholder, no I don't live in Brighton (but I do like it a great deal!).

Prettybird Tue 07-Jun-05 12:38:30

SOrry the owner wasn't more helpful. Is the cat on its own all day? Siamese really should be kept in pairs, as they get lonley and neurotic if left on thier own for too long. They are normally actually more like dogs in character, demanding and craving company.

I like Batters' idea - do something really unpleasant - but not cruel - to it, to dissuade it form coming anywhere near your place.

fairy Wed 08-Jun-05 15:28:27

Hi Prettybird, yes the cat is a cat on its own, rather than in a pair, though there in somebody around most of the day.

We haven't see it since Monday now, but I'm ready with my bucket of water and slingshot!!!!

SpanishEyes Wed 08-Jun-05 17:39:10

I'm really sorry and I shouldn't be laughing, but the one about your neighbours siamese NoddyHolder, tearing your mat up in front of u really made me hysterically laugh!!!

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