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Help? To euthanize cat or let die naturally at some point? Vetergesic?

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SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 00:43:54

Please, any advice or opinions are welcome - preferably from someone who has either experienced euthanizing their cat, or has had the choice. Long story short, our cat was suddenly diagnosed with cancer 48 hours ago and told we should put him down tomorrow. Obviously this is a huge shock but the vet seems to think it’s best we euthanize. It’s kidney cancer, now lymphoma, he’s been on antibiotics/anti-sickness & painkiller Vetergesic (anyone know this?) for 2-3 days now. He is lethargic, not moving all day, lying still but not closing eyes - eyes are wide open and staring into space (is this the painkiller? Or cancer? We don’t know), but the worst concern is that he is unable to eat.. he hasn’t eaten anything in 2 whole days now and before that, was having about 3 chunks of meat for a few days. We are worried he will starve to death if we don’t euthanize him and the vet recommended it due to his complete change in personality (he’s usually so interested in everything and cuddly, and he’s just staring straight completely not phased by anything even his treats or brother), and his weakness in his body, along with the fact that his cancer has spread everywhere. But saying this, he isn’t struggling or seems to be suffering at all visually. He is just lying there eyes open, but not actively suffering? Help????

ILoveMaxiBondi Sun 23-Dec-18 00:46:21

Fucking hell. I can’t believe there is even a question in your mind! Read your OP again. Read your description of his current condition and then try and say he doesn’t seem to be suffering! hmm

BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger Sun 23-Dec-18 00:47:00

Honestly, I would say that it is the last act of kindness you could do for him, to let him go peacefully and with dignity. I'm so sorry that you will be losing your friend.

SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 00:50:24

This is what I am battling between - he is calm, lying down and not flinching or making a sound. He is awake and not crying/still lets us touch him? It’s all come on so suddenly? I of course don’t want him to suffer - but we are worried, as a family, that if we put him down, it was the wrong choice? Maybe he wants to die naturally?

PipLongStockings Sun 23-Dec-18 00:50:49

I made the heartbreaking decision to put my cat to sleep a few months ago almost against veterinary advice. Overnight most likely he had a blood clot that paralysed his back legs. They suggested many life prolonging options but I asked would they be able to make him be a cat again and enjoy what he did before the clot. The answer was no.
Your cat has lost all enjoyment in life and will be suffering immensely from lack of ability to self care. It is the most kind thing you can do when there is no option of getting better

PipLongStockings Sun 23-Dec-18 00:52:50

We are kinder to animals than we are to humans. Dying is not a peaceful process in cases of cancer. Your little one is suffering and is showing that by not partaking in usual activity

ILoveMaxiBondi Sun 23-Dec-18 00:54:54

Maybe he wants to die naturally?

What?? Cats have no concept of wanting to die naturally. They have no concept of dying. All he knows is he is starving and in pain. He is already suffering massively. He can’t even move!

Drogosnextwife Sun 23-Dec-18 00:55:04

Given the choice I don't think a person would want to suffer a death like that, unfortunately we don't have the choice. Put the poor soul out of his misery.

DramaAlpaca Sun 23-Dec-18 00:55:11

FFS, how can you even be thinking of leaving that cat as he is! Of course he's suffering. Have him PTS & let him go with dignity. Please think about what's best for the animal. I can't understand why you have not taken the right decision already angry

Unobtainable Sun 23-Dec-18 00:55:20

A cat has no concept of death, let alone whether its natural or not. The vet has recommended having your cat put to sleep. Please do it as a last act of kindness to prevent any further suffering.

BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger Sun 23-Dec-18 00:55:54

Also, cats can tend to retreat into themselves when they are in pain. I'm so sorry, but I really think he is telling you that he has had enough. It's time for him to go.

zenasfuck Sun 23-Dec-18 00:56:22

Your cat does not want to lie down riddled with cancer and die slowly
Please have him euthanised tomorrow and let him die peacefully and pain free

SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 00:58:21

Okay sad the last thing we want is for him to suffer sad we just didn’t know if he was suffering that justified death, as he is so quiet and seems to be content lying next to us. I guess it’s about the quality of life sad

SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 01:00:04

And I don’t mean maybe he wants to die naturally, I meant, he doesn’t seem to be in visual pain and has no symptoms like vomiting/diorrhoea. He is just not acting like himself and has retreated to sleeping in strange places and not eating. But I guess I need to understand that these things mean he has no quality of life. We will euthanize him tomorrow morning sad I just needed some reassurance

DramaAlpaca Sun 23-Dec-18 01:00:27

OP, cats are very, very good at hiding pain. They even purr when they are in pain to try to comfort themselves. You know what you need to do.

norfolkandchanceyou Sun 23-Dec-18 01:01:08

Vets do not recommend euthanasia lightly so if your vets says it's time then it really is

Besides if he's sitting there and not moving he is suffering. Animals don't wail in pain like us but there eyes will tell you so if your cat is just glazed over and not looking that's another sure sign he's in pain

Please put your upset to one side and let him go with you beside him until he's gone. Please do not leave him in the company of strange people to him in the final moments of his life.

SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 01:01:45

Lastly - the vet told us he isn’t in any pain. But the not eating thing and retreating - people here still think they are reasons to euthanize??

ILoveMaxiBondi Sun 23-Dec-18 01:03:10

There is no benefit to him in delaying euthanasia. Even if he wasn’t suffering now (He is btw- absolutely) it wouldn’t be long before he was. Why would you you want to wait for him to experience pain when you know he isn’t going to survive anyway? How does he benefit from experiencing pain?

SabahAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 01:03:25

Thanks for the last few messages. I have decided to euthanize tomorrow morning sad I am utterly devastated sad I hope you are all right and he is suffering and that’s what I thought, about him being in pain. I guess I’ll say goodbye tomorrow morning before (he is sleeping in a hidden spot that I cannot reach)

SheSaidNoFuckThat Sun 23-Dec-18 01:03:28

Do the right thing and pts ffs! Owning a pet is hard and this is the best thing to do. They will not show pain to you, don't be selfish

Shinesweetfreedom Sun 23-Dec-18 01:03:30

Don’t let him suffer.Look up 24 hour vet and get there as soon as possible.Please.

Balloondog Sun 23-Dec-18 01:03:43

We had to make the awful decision to euthanise our beloved girl in summer - it's still raw and hands down the hardest decision I've ever had to make however, despite the vet not wanting to commit to a decision either way and leaving it up to us, we knew it was the right thing to do for her. She wasn't suffering terribly in that moment but was not herself, almost spaced out and not eating or sleeping and the vet said she had only a matter of weeks to live naturally anyway.

Someone on here advised me that it was better to make the decision a day too early than a day too late and whilst we miss her terribly we take comfort in the fact we could give her a 'good' death in our arms and in peace.

From what you've said OP, it sounds like it is time. It is an incredibly hard decision but remember you need to do what's best for your cat, not what's best for you.

PipLongStockings Sun 23-Dec-18 01:04:15

If he liked his food before and now he doesnt- he is not a happy boy and there is no quality of life for him. I'm sorry but that is what we are trusted to do as pet owners flowers

SheSaidNoFuckThat Sun 23-Dec-18 01:05:06

And for what it's worth, you're doing the right thing, I know it's hard and send condolences but you have to do what's right for them
And not you x

MovingNextYearHopefully Sun 23-Dec-18 01:07:31

You know what you need to do really. So sorry. fsad

chatwoo Sun 23-Dec-18 01:09:19

Poor cat sad. Please make preparations to have him put to slee. His behaviour and lack of appetite shows he is suffering.

It's a horrible thing to have to do, but if sounds like it will be in the cat's best interests flowers flowers

Greensleeves Sun 23-Dec-18 01:10:14

OP is not being selfish, she is asking for advice on what to do for the best. It's a good thing that people don't take these decisions lightly. There is NO need to be mean or aggressive about it!

I agree that it's time to have him PTS. flowers

user1471453601 Sun 23-Dec-18 01:10:56

I've had cats and dogs for pretty much all my life, and have made this decision more times than I cared to. If your cat has stopped eating, he is ready to go imo.
Let him go, as others have said, it's the last ( and hardest) kindness you can do for an animal who has been a loving companion. The pain of losing them is the price we pay for the years of love they give us

QuestionableMouse Sun 23-Dec-18 01:14:58

Not eating is a massive sign so I'd say you're doing the right thing.

They really have no concept of death and will have no fear.

I'm sorry.

AaaaaaarghhhWhereAreMyKeys Sun 23-Dec-18 01:20:14

Hi :-) So sorry to hear about your cat. We went through similar with ours not long ago and I know how hard it is to see them suffer. It sounds like you already know that it is time....if he is no longer enjoying life, not eating, drinking etc. You won’t regret taking him in too soon although you will if you leave it too late. It’s so so hard to say goodbye but, as pip said, it’s the kindest thing you can do and he will thank you for it if he could. My only regret with my cat is not doing it sooner. Xx

LaylaAndHerDaughter Sun 23-Dec-18 11:30:51

Thanks everyone. The vet is on her way now to euthanize him, she’s two minutes away. Thanks for all the messages (aggressive or not) that helped me to understand it’s the right thing.

StartingGrid Sun 23-Dec-18 11:33:41

Wishing your baby a peaceful passing, sorry for the circumstances flowers

DonDrapersOldFashioned Sun 23-Dec-18 11:37:25

By the time he slips away ‘naturally’, he is highly likely to be suffering unbearably. I know it is a heartbreaking decision to have to make, especially so soon after getting such devastating news but please do minimise his suffering and euthanise. We had to make a similar decision this year and it was agony for us but it was the right thing for him. Take care

ginyogarepeat Sun 23-Dec-18 11:43:42

It is the right thing OP, but having been there myself in recent years, it's not an easy decision to make, but is definitely the kindest option.

As this has all happened so quickly, you'll be in a state of shock so be kind to yourself and take your time healing. In time you'll remember the good memories thanks x

tazzle22 Sun 23-Dec-18 11:45:03

Hard but kind decision.... hope it's a peaceful procedure. Here's a hand hold ( we need an icon for this !) For you both.

FrankieChips Sun 23-Dec-18 11:48:35

So sorry you’ve had to make this decision. It’s incredibly hard. @ginyogarepeat said it better than I could flowers

norfolkandchanceyou Sun 23-Dec-18 13:00:42

Hugs to you and family.

I lost 2 of my cats this year and the tough decision to let them go never gets any easier but I know I did it for them not me thanks

Urbanbeetler Sun 23-Dec-18 13:03:51

So sorry you have lost your little friend. You did the right thing, but that doesn’t make it any less painful for you and her brother.

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