Please sign this.....

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Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 13:25:20

….. laws need changing to prevent this happening to other people


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RosaWaiting Wed 10-Jul-19 13:31:07

goodness, the law is mad isn't it! That picture!

I always thought I'd love to live in a house but things like this make me wonder.

Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 13:34:07

It is Rosa

I could show you some more, much more horrendous photos but I would be breaking privacy laws.

I know some people won't want me using this site to try and get support (and I apologise to them) but I am desperate. I can't tell you what it is like living with this


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UrsulaPandress Wed 10-Jul-19 13:37:17

Didn't you have a long running thread about this? I never caught the end of it - I presume it didn't go well.

Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 13:49:16

Yes I did Ursula

It is still going. I would put a link if I knew how!

The railings got refused but they have appealed so that will take ages. But it is this flaw that allows them to use the flat roof regardless of railings being there, and I know that they are going to.

It is ridiculous

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isseywithcats Wed 10-Jul-19 14:03:39

signed i remember your thread

UrsulaPandress Wed 10-Jul-19 14:04:05

It must be a bloody nightmare. I've signed your petition.


Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 14:05:58

thank you so much

Forgot to add, if anyone does sign, it also helps if you are able to add just a few words in the box regarding why you are signing. Just useful info to be able to challenge this.

I realise the chances of me getting anywhere with this are miniscule but if we never challenge things that are blatantly wrong nothing ever changes does it


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Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 14:11:56

...and please feel free (encouraged!) to forward on to as many people as you possible can.

A few of my friends have shared on FB

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koolaider Wed 10-Jul-19 14:19:41


purplepingu Wed 10-Jul-19 14:48:55

I remember your first thread and I can't believe nothing has been done.


Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 14:58:13

Thank you both.

There has been progress in terms of the application was refused (and hopefully their appeal will be denied) but I am still stuck with this ridiculous state of play where they are going to use it anyway (without railings) and planning are unable to enforce against that.

It is just nonsense

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Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 18:05:35

Shamelessly bumping 😳

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LilyMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 10-Jul-19 18:16:44

We're just moving this over to our petitions topic. flowers

Morley19 Wed 10-Jul-19 18:25:04

Thanks Lily

Is it possible to have it in both?

I really wanted it in property too as i have a very long thread about this problem in property with a lot of supporters

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UrsulaPandress Wed 10-Jul-19 23:22:30

Why not post the link in your thread?

LizzieSiddal Wed 10-Jul-19 23:29:37

That’s awful!

Is there any reason why you can’t put a solid board above your conservatory, so they can’t look in your bedroom window.
I’d also put an 10 ft fence up between your properties.

spingiscomming Wed 10-Jul-19 23:37:08

I do get why you are upset. I can imagine that when you purchased your property you didn’t foresee this. I understand that you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home.


I am a city dweller.

I’m abroad but imagine that the legal framework is the same in the UK. Laws unless you are in a federal state are more or less national.

What would the impact of privacy laws impact apartments/flats?

Laws and policy are not for the few but for the many.

How would policy or law have to be written in this case ? That owners of detached or semi detached houses have a greater right to privacy than people living in flats or apartments ? My current balcony shares railings with my next door neighbors. Their balcony is under 30cm from my bedroom window.

I understand your sentiment - but I cannot see a practical way of enforcing policy or law that would not be discriminatory to people who live in flats or communal buildings.

How would you word your proposal ? What would it entail? Could you write a just proposal that would offer all citizens equal rights wherever they lived ?

Morley19 Thu 11-Jul-19 09:26:02

Ursula - I did try that. Mumsnet have told me that links to petitions have to be posted here.

Lizzie - yes I am already looking into possibilities like that

spingiscomming - yes all valid points that you mention and, if I am being brutally honest, I don't have the answers. All I know is that I am going through hell at the moment with these neighbours, who don't give a stuff about anyone but themselves.

I guess the difference with flats etc is that you know what you are buying when you buy it. These houses were never designed to have roof terraces like this and that is why they were ordered to put a retrospective planning application in and why the council has refused it - so there already is a difference there I guess between my house and your flat. The railings you have to live with would never have been allowed on this house.

As I said, I don't have the answers, am just in a desperate situation. Even every official that looks at it is horrified, including the planning officers (even though they are stuck/bound with this flaw)


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