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toadgirl Thu 28-Jul-16 13:07:44

I don't speak French and I only did an A-Level in French many moons ago, so I am not claiming to be an expert here.

However, here are a couple of examples that drive me crazy:-

Fox paws (faux pas)
Percy or per say (per se)

StealthPolarBear Thu 28-Jul-16 13:08:44


SpuriouserAndSpuriouser Thu 28-Jul-16 13:11:03

No. NO. Do people actually write these things?! The worst I have seen is "on route"

BendydickCuminsnatch Thu 28-Jul-16 13:13:16

Some people (Americans, mainly, sorry but true!) think it's 'wahla' instead of 'voila' and write it out in blogs etc... shock

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond Thu 28-Jul-16 13:15:19

Ect.... (Et cetera)

toadgirl Thu 28-Jul-16 13:15:20

think it's 'wahla' instead of 'voila'

Oh, YES! That's another one I've seen.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Thu 28-Jul-16 13:15:29


Thomasisintraining Thu 28-Jul-16 13:17:14

Where I live there is a Cul da Sac

BendydickCuminsnatch Thu 28-Jul-16 13:26:26

Omg yes I DESPISE 'ect' as well. Do people not know that it's short for 'et cetera', and what that means? Don't they wonder where 'ect' comes from and look into it? confused I just don't understand that. Also iPhones autocorrect to etc so half the time there's no excuse.

Decanter Thu 28-Jul-16 13:33:03

I once knew someone who would say AND type....."oomwah" instead of "moi".

I shit you not.

FurryDogMother Thu 28-Jul-16 13:33:58

Per se is Latin, not French smile

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond Thu 28-Jul-16 13:34:56

Come to think of it, I think etc is too! grin

Leirope Thu 28-Jul-16 13:43:54

Per se and etc both from Latin (literally 'in itself' and 'and the rest').

Ridiculous level of pedantry but I'm getting annoyed every time they say 'Francois Hollande' on the news as 'fron-shwa all-ond' instead of 'fron-shwaz-all-ond'.

toadgirl Thu 28-Jul-16 13:46:28

Per se is Latin, not French

So it is! blush

Je fais un fox paws!

GraceGrape Thu 28-Jul-16 13:52:13

Lei, sorry to be even more pedantic, but Francois is pronounced the first way (Fron-swa). The feminine version, Francoise is pronounced Fron-swaaz. Even with the silent H for his surname, the z sound shouldn't be pronounced (as it would in another word followed by a vowel) because it is a name.

Think I have reached new levels of pedantry....

toadgirl Thu 28-Jul-16 13:52:18

Omg yes I DESPISE 'ect' as well

It makes me think of ECT shock treatment.

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond Thu 28-Jul-16 13:54:14

Haha, me too with the ECT!

It's ol-ond surely? Not all-ond?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Thu 28-Jul-16 13:57:54

Grace thanks so much for that explanation! I'd totally forgotten that rule from my A-level French years ago!
On a similar note (sorry Americans again): Americans saying 'urb' instead of 'herb' / is that because they think they have to pronounce it the French way? Drives me mad.

Leirope Thu 28-Jul-16 14:09:22

Grace blush all that wasted pedantry when I could have been concentrating on something really important like people who said the hoi polloi (not French but still a crime).

Thomasisintraining Thu 28-Jul-16 14:10:37

To be fair the British media does not really try much with heads of states' names. There was a former Irish Taoiseach referred to as Charles Hockey for a decade by the British media.

Leirope Thu 28-Jul-16 14:14:59

Shotgun All English speakers used to pronounce it as urb when the colonies were founded. It was only when all things French became politically taboo that we switched to pronouncing the 'h'.

Leirope Thu 28-Jul-16 14:16:17

Thomas or when they try to pronounce Strabane grin

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Thu 28-Jul-16 14:18:36

Well - every day a school day grin!

ThoraGruntwhistle Thu 28-Jul-16 14:21:09

To be 'oh fay' with something.

BerriesandLeaves Thu 28-Jul-16 14:43:33

There's a place near me called Le Personne Trust. Isn't it supposed to be La Personne?

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