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Who or whom? "They are a team from whom we will be collecting 3 points"

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Pan Tue 12-Nov-13 13:07:51

is this acceptable please? <winces in prep. for a big fat 'no'>

BackOnlyBriefly Tue 12-Nov-13 13:14:24

Good thing you're not relying on me as I'd have said "They are a team from which we will be collecting 3 points" smile

Pan Tue 12-Nov-13 13:15:49

Could be both? <desperate>

SconeRhymesWithGone Tue 12-Nov-13 17:13:39

In your construction, it would definitely be "whom" over "who," but I might go with "which" as well, although I think you could use either (who/whom refers to people; which/that to things, but a team is a collection of people as well as a thing).

I think your construction is a bit awkward, though, and it sounds more awkward to my ear with "which" for some reason. I would say : "They are a team we will be collecting 3 points from." And yes, it is ok to end a sentence with a preposition.

Just a warning: I am American; I think what I have said also conforms to British usage, but I am not certain.

PiratePanda Tue 12-Nov-13 17:30:11

Who replaces they and whom replaces them. Split it into two sentences to see which is correct: "They are a team. We will be collecting from them" - ergo "whom".

Because of the complicating factor of team, however, from which is also ok.

MirandaGoshawk Tue 12-Nov-13 19:45:04

We will be collecting 3 points from this team. grin

Pan Tue 12-Nov-13 19:54:21

I think Scones and Pirate you are right, only for the reason that you agree with me and explain why....thank you. Yes it sounds quite convoluted and which/who would be just as well.

Miranda - next time

extracrunchy Tue 12-Nov-13 19:58:17

Whom or which (but then you need "it's a team" instead of "they" I think..?)

SconeRhymesWithGone Tue 12-Nov-13 20:10:08

I think extra has a good point. By using "they" you are emphasizing the people in the team and thus whom would be better than which.

ancientbuchanan Tue 12-Nov-13 20:13:08

I would use It's and which, myself. A team is a concept not a person it persons. Or you could say, they form a team from which...

ancientbuchanan Tue 12-Nov-13 20:14:34

Or, dammit, not it. Phone, predictive text. Bah!

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