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Have! Have! It's have not of!

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RhondaJean Sun 14-Jul-13 19:37:22

You HAVE done something. You have not OF something.

It makes me want to scream. Aaaaargh. AAAAAARGH!

Thank you!

tribpot Sun 14-Jul-13 19:41:07

In fairness no-one says 'I of been to the shops'. It's used specifically with would, should and could where 'could've' sounds very similar to 'could of'.

Bloody annoying nevertheless!

Hassled Sun 14-Jul-13 19:41:27

You're not wrong grin

But I don't understand where/why this has come about - it's a newish, last few years thing, isn't it? My fairly bright, has a degree etc, DS1 was baffled when I corrected him - he genuinely believed it to be "I should of quit while I was ahead". Where does it come from?

tribpot Sun 14-Jul-13 20:11:25

No, not new - I remember my mum correcting me on this when I was about 9 or so.

GertrudeMorel Sun 14-Jul-13 20:14:08

Drives me nuts too.

RhondaJean Sun 14-Jul-13 20:15:32

Trib there's a thread elsewhere today which has the title "to of cancelled..."

It set me over the edge!

But obviously would be rude to mention it on the thread so here I am to moan instead.

Glad I am not alone...

SconeRhymesWithGone Mon 15-Jul-13 15:42:01

But isn't it only in written English that it is a problem? It comes from eliding/contracting "should have, would have," etc. in speech, which is common and not incorrect. It then gets incorrectly written as it sounds.

ArgyMargy Mon 15-Jul-13 22:41:57

Well is it rude Rhonda? I've snuck in a pedantry or two on non-pedant threads (see the one about dog "toileting"). People need to be told!!

VBisme Mon 15-Jul-13 22:45:03

Pet hate of mine, it does make people look a bit uneducated.

RhondaJean Mon 15-Jul-13 22:47:25

The contraction is should've not should of.


Dillydollydaydream Mon 15-Jul-13 22:52:13

I also hate when people say should of, could of etc.

TallulahBetty Tue 16-Jul-13 21:47:35

It's just because people say "could've" which sounds like "could of". That's why it's only written incorrectly.

SconeRhymesWithGone Wed 17-Jul-13 13:28:12

Exactly, Tallulah. In many accents of spoken English, contracting words with "have" creates a homophone with "of." I think it is overly pedantic to insist that people change their accents to create a discernible aural distinction betweeen the two.

Ohhelpohnoitsa Wed 17-Jul-13 21:11:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

dollybird Wed 17-Jul-13 21:13:53

yeah, but in Rhondajean's example who says to've??

SconeRhymesWithGone Wed 17-Jul-13 22:40:34

No one says "to've," but many people elide "to have" in a way that sounds like "to of."

I amend my previous post by adding "eliding," and by spelling "between" correctly. wink

AKissIsNotAContract Wed 17-Jul-13 22:43:23

People who say that are the same people who refer to themselves as 'myself' instead of 'me'. Wankers

fflonkl Sun 18-Aug-13 08:15:08

Should HAVE, should HAVE, should HAVE!!!!!

Can't stand seeing should of, it really irritates me!

Sorry for reviving this but I just had to vent!

Tubemole1 Mon 30-Sep-13 23:20:30

Totally agree.

meditrina Sat 19-Apr-14 21:05:49

Must this thread - and the various other very similar ones (this being a hardy perennial thread subject) - be deleted, following today's deletion?

Nennypops Mon 21-Apr-14 10:33:23

What's been deleted?

DrankSangriaInThePark Tue 22-Apr-14 09:18:54

Of course not Meditrina.

This thread unlike the deleted one, wasn't started specifically to take the piss out of another OP.

I think you can guess which thread was deleted Nenny. Surely you, as the OP, received the same deletion message from HQ that the rest of us did?

Nennypops Wed 23-Apr-14 14:51:04

Goodness, not that I'm aware of! Which one was it - the one about "To of done something"? That wasn't to take the piss out of any OP, I've seen a number of threads with that sort of title over quite a long period, and finally got around to having a whinge about it. If MN are deleting threads about common mistakes because one specific OP who makes the same mistake might just think it was about them, I'm amazed they allow Pedants' Corner at all.

<<goes to interrogate MN about what the hell they think they're doing>>

EdithWeston Wed 23-Apr-14 15:02:11

I agree with nennypops.

The thread in "chat" was identifiable (and right that it was deleted). The one here, by a different OP, wasn't - exactly as this one hasn't been to date, perhaps because it was pre-PB?

Or perhaps this needs to be zapped too, to fit the new 'mood' of post-PB MN? For this is as much an identifiable TAAT as the deleted one.

DrankSangriaInThePark Wed 23-Apr-14 15:02:47

Yes it was that one.

I reported it, don't know if anyone else did.

It was clearly about the OP of the painting thread. (I think you even mentioned the thread)

I hope she didn't see it.

As I said on the thread before it was zapped, I can, and will, out-pedant anyone as far as use of English is concerned, but I would never stoop to starting a thread about another poster. This thread is different because it is talking generically about what has, yes, become an ubiquitous mistake by many many people.

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