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Whatever happened to 'to be'?

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LoopsInHoops Sun 20-Jan-13 01:07:38

I agree with you SPB. Are you English?

Sorted. it's a Scottish/NI thing. Thanks all. smile

SPBInDisguise Sat 19-Jan-13 17:39:21

Loops, the first one to be correct, the second would be lazier but I would still say it, the third sounds totally wrong to me. It needs corrected. grin

bigkidsdidit Sat 19-Jan-13 16:28:25

That's the normal use in scotland

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 16:17:12

Not 'the baby will need to be picked up at 4'?

LindyHemming Sat 19-Jan-13 16:05:20

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SweetestThing Sat 19-Jan-13 16:03:45

Agree with Euphemia - this is a construction we use in Scotland (and possibly in NI too?). Something needs done, not doing. Or cleaned, not cleaning.

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 16:02:37

Oh really? So it is a regional thing.

Votes please:

Your region:
Do you say: The baby needs to be picked up, the baby needs picking up, or the baby needs picked up?

Thanks smile

LindyHemming Sat 19-Jan-13 16:02:35

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nickelbabe Sat 19-Jan-13 16:01:34

i don't like "baby needed picking up" either.

everyone has started saying "needing doing"
or similar instead of to do.

it's a pandemic.

Booyhoo Sat 19-Jan-13 16:00:11

ah, i've never heard that SPB. it is odd.

LindyHemming Sat 19-Jan-13 16:00:05

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LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 15:58:39

Conditional pluperfect maybe?

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 15:57:45

"the baby needed picking up" would be fine here, a conditional past tense of sorts, but "the baby needed picked up" isn't anything. confused

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 15:56:34

No, though, Euphemia, it still doesn't fit any of the grammar rules.

If it's a regional thing, fair enough. Still wrong though.

SPBInDisguise Sat 19-Jan-13 15:52:58

The only example I can think of is from sex and the city
"I've been giving blow jobs since I'm twelve"
I've noticed it a few other times, but can't think of the specifics

Booyhoo Sat 19-Jan-13 15:49:42

SPB can you give an example of 'am' instead of 'was'? i'm struggling to understand that one.

janek Sat 19-Jan-13 15:48:19

I think it could be an irish thing, dp and dmil both do it. Agree it sounds wrong, but i guess if it's a dialect it's okay...

LindyHemming Sat 19-Jan-13 15:45:54

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NotGeoffVader Sat 19-Jan-13 15:44:38

I've not noticed that one disappearing. I'm still twitchy about "like" as in -
"It's like I've just walked out of the salon" rather than "It's as though I've just walked out of the salon".

And don't get me started on the pinterest-speak of "Totally addicting"

<exits with steam pouring from ears>

Jojobump1986 Sat 19-Jan-13 15:44:09

Clearly 'to be' was 'not to be'! grin Sorry, couldn't resist!

SPBInDisguise Sat 19-Jan-13 15:43:02

I've noticed "am" being used instead of "was" a fair amount, not sure why

Booyhoo Sat 19-Jan-13 15:42:18

is it regional?

i'm in NI and it would be quite normal in my part of the land to say "the baby needs picked up" dropping the 'to be'. it's not a conscious thing, it's just natural for us to speak like this.

LoopsInHoops Sat 19-Jan-13 15:38:44

I keep reading things like "the baby needed picked up". Loads of variations on this weird loss of the words 'to be' (but I can't think of any other actual examples right now. Why is this? Is it just laziness? American English? I'm irritated confused.

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