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Dozer Fri 07-Sep-12 18:32:29

Why, why is this suddenly everywhere? Is it American? It is annoying.

Greythorne Fri 07-Sep-12 18:34:43

As bad as 'speak with'

It's 'speak TO'!

Celticlassie Fri 07-Sep-12 20:38:48

Or have 'a lunch'. NO! Have lunch.

letseatgrandma Fri 07-Sep-12 20:59:31

Ooh, yes that one annoys me, too!

I heard someone say 'myself and Claire are having a meeting on Monday' earlier today which made me wince!

WMittens Sat 08-Sep-12 22:09:04

From here

"'I will meet with you' does imply a number of things: it implies that it's quite formal; it implies that it's very professional reasons and it implies that somehow, we're going to collaborate on something ...and that it will go on for quite a long time."

That's how it sounds to me: this will involve a meeting, as the BBC link says, 'a collaboration', as opposed to, "I will meet you at the phone box on the high street."
As bad as 'speak with'

It's 'speak TO'!

To me, 'speak with' sounds (again) more collaborative or inclusive; 'speak to' sounds like someone's going to be lectured or told off.

WMittens Sat 08-Sep-12 22:11:22

"I heard someone say 'myself and Claire are having a meeting on Monday' earlier today which made me wince!"

Can you explain what is wrong with that? It sounds perfectly acceptable to me (if they were meeting to discuss some particular issue or item with the intent to progress the situation are achieve an outcome; if they're just going for coffee and a catch up, no).

WMittens Sat 08-Sep-12 22:12:54

To add to the last post:

Unless letseatgrandma, you winced at, "myself and Claire," where it should have been, "Claire and I..."?

letseatgrandma Mon 10-Sep-12 20:34:58

Unless letseatgrandma, you winced at, "myself and Claire," where it should have been, "Claire and I..."?

Yes; it was the 'myself and Claire' that upset me!

Greythorne Mon 10-Sep-12 23:07:02

No, in Brit English, we speak to even if it is collaborative. On the phone, one asks to speak to someone, not with them. It's an Americanism to "speak with" people.

WilsonFrickett Tue 25-Sep-12 19:20:14

Which brings me to 'reach out to' my current most hated Americanism.

"If Wilson could reach out to Grey, and then meet with Grandma to speak with Mittens and myself..."

You all want to rip your eyes out now, doncha? grin

WMittens Wed 26-Sep-12 08:39:50

"You all want to rip your eyes out now, doncha?"


It should have been, "...and I..."


PedroPonyLikesCrisps Wed 26-Sep-12 09:30:20

All very much popular business phrases at the moment, my personal hatred is for the use of "revert" as in "Please check the changes Bob has made to your document and revert to myself".

Sounds like I'm supposed to change it back to how it was before...... And there's that pesky "myself" again.....

Ephiny Wed 26-Sep-12 12:07:12

It should have been 'with me, surely? smile

I am mostly baffled by 'revert' and 'coordinate' used in odd ways.

Ephiny Wed 26-Sep-12 12:07:39

oops, I mean 'and me'. I think.

<runs away confused and muddled>

lottiegarbanzo Thu 18-Oct-12 12:41:15

Our solicitor keeps reverting to us, or asking people to revert to him. It sounds as though he thinks he used to be me.

Talk with, yes American. Trying to sound inclusive and friendly I think.

EdithWeston Thu 18-Oct-12 12:57:23

It's unexceptional if it's followed by an abstract noun: for example, from "If":

"If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same"

It is unnecessary verbiage in British English if it's simply about meeting a person, and so counts as poor usage. It is the opposite of formal!

"Revert" is however a long standing Civil Service and military usage.

somebloke123 Thu 18-Oct-12 15:43:00


At least that's not as bad as "do lunch".

JessieMcJessie Tue 30-Oct-12 18:34:09

I used to have a problem with"meet with" but over time I have grown comfortable with using it as meaning "have a meeting with" because "meet" on its own just sounds inadequate. Eg " we will meet John and Fred next Tuesday" just sounds like we have never met them before, whereas " we will meet with John and Fred" conveys the sense that we will sit down round the table with them. I also feel that "we will have a meeting with John and Fred" sounds rather over- formal, as if they had done something wrong and we must have a meeting with them to bring them to boot.

However this American "reach out" bollox is doing my head in - a US lawyer recently emailed, " I have reached out to John and Fred to set up a meeting". It sounded like he was setting up a support group! Also just gets me singing that song- "Reach out....iiii'll be there, to love and comfort yoooou".

VintageRainBoots Tue 06-Nov-12 05:52:06

"Meet with..." is a common expression in the US, as well as "speak with..." Until I read this thread, I didn't know it was unacceptable in British English.

PlantsDieArid Sun 18-Nov-12 21:03:49

ThIs is one of the many reasons I am thoroughly unemployable. If an adult asked me to 'reach out' outwith the context of my having fallen down an unused mineshaft, I would be obliged to stab them.

Should they then mention that anything was 'comprised of,' I'd stab them twice.

CocktailQueen Tue 04-Dec-12 23:14:42

Grandma - 'Claire and I are meeting on Monday' - please, no 'myself'! All wrong.

LynetteScavo Tue 04-Dec-12 23:29:08

But, but, but American's don't like me saying "angry with"...because they say angry/mad at.

breatheslowly Tue 04-Dec-12 23:36:50

People at work regularly use "reach out to" when they mean email, ask or contact. I am not sure if they use "reach out to" to imply that they are trying to open a dialogue or just to annoy me.

prism Wed 05-Dec-12 15:03:29

Latine loqui; nulla esset opus praepositio omnino.

clam Tue 11-Dec-12 13:29:13

OK, well while we're at it, may I point out how much I hate, hate, HATE the term "one-on-one" time? Another irritating Americanism.

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